GRID is a good racer...its just not a sim.

I am actually shocked. :0

Was that supossed to be witty?

I have contributed alot to bringing home the conclusion that you are talking drivel. The most obvious difference between Grid and GT is that Grid handles nothing like real life cars, not even in the slightest slightest bit, Gran Turismo is the best (console game) in this area. In GT you have a much larger and more detailed car selection at your disposal, and every car feels realistically different, Grid does an awful job at this.

Next up the internal tuning in GT is far more detailed and realisitc than in Grid. Do you know what a damper is, what about spring compression? Next GT times and tracks are far more realistic, for example in GT5p the world record at Suzuka Circuit is only a tenth of a second faster than the real life record (both in Fer F1 2007). GT also has the best racing wheel support in the genre supporting all the fantastic wheels and using them wheel. Try playing Grid with a wheel, it's just hideously messed up.

Then you add in the 'casual' replay function in Grid making race changing mistakes all the less race changing. Also consider than GT has the most realistic cockpit views, Grid has poor cockpit views. Moving on the braking zones in Grid are pathetic, in a standard car you don't go from 150mph to 10mph in 0.5 seconds. GT also has a far more hardcore fanbase dedicated to setting time trial records through various circuits, Grid does not.

Biggest and most glaring reason is that Grid doesn't handle like real cars in any way, shape or form. Add in those other 50 reasons I've given you and take into account the 'casual' feel you get when playing Grid and you should understand where I'm coming from.

Also the common thinking that in GT you can bounce you're way around the track and win races is utter BS. When you hit a wall in GT (without damage) you're screwed, it will take you at least 10 seconds to get going again, you will be starting off at a low speed meaning you're race can be over.

And of course you can't just rewind and undo you're mistake.

GRiD is a great game, but really does not have realistic handling at all, it is just really obvious, skidding and sliding around work fine as a tactic

The damage arguements aren't the worst, it is when they go on about tyre wear...

@ rol, it handles realistically and with the exception of damage, it is very realistic and they are now adding in damage

Real racing sims don't have damage because in a racing sim you aren't supposed to crash. Obviously grid supports damage, so you are supposed to crash. As you said, arcade racers are all about the fun, and crashing is fun. Therefore Grid is an arcade racer.

I've played GTR2, Race Driver, rFactor, and besides the damage and mods, GT is a better sim.