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Do you not know anything about statistics? A simple survey of a thousand people can accurately represent an entire population, coming within 3-4% of the actual value.

The key word there is "can". You can get a reasonably accurate figure from a relatively small sample size, but only if all of those people are telling the truth, and only if the group of people you're surveying are representative of the 360 owner base as a whole. Surveys have been manipulated to skew all kinds of statistics in the past. Whether that's happened here or not is open to debate, but those that are adamant that these figures are 100% accurate clearly have an agenda of their own.

Do you think that if there was a survey on here about 360 failure rates, that maybe, just maybe, some PS3 owners that have never owned an Xbox 360 might vote to say that they've had multiple failures? Oh no, that's completely beyond the realms of possibility! lol.

I haven't read the full thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating things that have already been said, but not denying something is not an admission of guilt. If MS had said "no, the failure rate is not 54.2%" it means nothing. It could be 54.3%, but they'd still have told the truth. Unless they come out and say "the failure rate of the 360 so far has been x%", which they will never do, then it's always going to be speculation. There's enough anecdotal evidence out there to show that the failure rate of the 360 has been (and possibly still is) unacceptable, but trying to put an exact figure on it is a waste of time.

Also, without knowing which hardware revisions failed, it's a pretty pointless statistic as there's little context to it. If 54.2% of Jaspers fail, well that's not particularly good news for anyone wanting to buy a 360 now, but the numbers could be (and almost certainly are) skewed in favour of old, long discontinued models.



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This is true and this is sad =(

i had 4 ring of deaths.



the best RPG's are coming 2013 !!!! oh my god, this is perfect for RPG-GAMER = ) Ni No Kuni - 25 january, Time and Eternity, tales of xillia (PS3) and the maybe best game ever: metal gear solid ground zero


Got my new elite today...so now it's officially 7 Xbox 360s, I've bought...6 of which I KNOW have had no RROD....knock on wood!



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1 PS3 = $300

Even if you only have to pay to replace your broken 360 once:
2 360 Arcades = $400

PS3 is by far a better value.



Infinity said:
1 PS3 = $300

Even if you only have to pay to replace your broken 360 once:
2 360 Arcades = $400

PS3 is by far a better value.

Didn't you read my reply before?  stop with the stupid arguments that make you look foolish.



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tarheel91 said:
Cueil said:
Wow! Microsoft's set rules for not responding to rumors has been followed yet again... dancing around the issue is the only thing you'll ever get from Microsoft even if this is crazy high... it's kind of like trying to bait them into telling you what the real number is... it's not happening

Do you not know anything about statistics?  A simple survey of a thousand people can accurately represent an entire population, coming within 3-4% of the actual value.


Yes but I know for certain that the cocks that get Game Informer are not representing the rest of us... it's not Scientific at all the way they did it



The margin of error cannont be that far off, unscientific or not. I work in the industry, and I can tell you for a fact the failure rate is at least 30%, even in the so called "fixed" new chipsets like Jasper.



You have proof that over 30% of Jaspers sold have failed then? It's weird, cos you'd think there'd be reports of Jaspers failing all over the web, but there's not. I suppose it's your "industry insider knowledge" that leads you to believe that the next iteration of the Xbox will launch next year yeah? lol. I guess that by talking such shite, you think it might help the first prediction in your signature come true.



Infinity said:
The margin of error cannont be that far off, unscientific or not. I work in the industry, and I can tell you for a fact the failure rate is at least 30%, even in the so called "fixed" new chipsets like Jasper.

Yeah and I live on the fucking moon...



Xbox360, 54.2 % is true. I had 4 ring of deaths =( I hate it



the best RPG's are coming 2013 !!!! oh my god, this is perfect for RPG-GAMER = ) Ni No Kuni - 25 january, Time and Eternity, tales of xillia (PS3) and the maybe best game ever: metal gear solid ground zero