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@ starcraft

Those Sony bankruptcy fear/prediction threads were just wishful thinking. In a worst case scenario (very far from reality) Sony could for instance sell its Blu-Ray assets, they could sell their movie studios, they could sell its banking business, etc, etc.



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MikeB has a brilliant track record and he always gets his sales predictions spot on.



jarrod said:
MikeB said:
MikeB said:

Remains to be seen:

- Slimline PS3 for 2009 (confirmed) and its impact.
- Impact of Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 for Japan.

Seems promising so far, I think.

Sort of fizzled.  They should've released the 360 rev in Japan too, they probably could've gotten another 150k out of collectors, otakus and gaijuns, and then FFXIII actually could've crossed 2m. 

Zero lasting hardware impact too really.  Thankfully, Sony had Torne, Hokuto and RGG4 to swing things around recently.

This is pretty much the case with every game, regardless of how many units it sells (MW2, GTAIV, etc.). It's a pretty poor argument for anyone to state that a single game will result in permanently increased hardware sales for any given platform. I'm actually kind of surprised some people still believe in this.

At best, a phenomenally selling game might expect to move 500k hardware units over its initial sales period (I'll even be generous and make it a million). Hardware sales levels drop back down to normal levels once that initial surge is finished.

About the only exception I can think of offhand would be Wii Fit, which is practically an immediate second purchase for anyone buying a Wii.



numonex said:
MikeB has a brilliant track record and he always gets his sales predictions spot on.

I don't do short term sales predictions, too many unknowns to do them accurately. Like for instance last fiscal quarter there were PS3 shortages in Europe and North America, that makes predicting the figures very hard.

VGChartz for example estimated 2.4 million XBox 360s were shipped last quarter, in reality Microsoft only shipped 1.5 million despite overshipping. That's a 63% overestimate, I would have been much closer with my prediction and frankly that's a pretty horrible misprediction (900K in only 3 months difference). I hope VGChartz is closer with their prediction for the PS3.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

MikeB said:
@ starcraft

Those Sony bankruptcy fear/prediction threads were just wishful thinking. In a worst case scenario (very far from reality) Sony could for instance sell its Blu-Ray assets, they could sell their movie studios, they could sell its banking business, etc, etc.

You have just changed your argument substantially.  I don't recall ever arguing that Sony would be bankrupted by selling the PS3, though at one point there was a reasonable argument to be made that they might have dropped it (in my view such a drop would only ever have been temporary, to buy a year's respite for example).

But to actually suggest they could have given away 100 million PS3's and not experience bankruptcy is, as you would put it, wishful thinking. 

It is already quite clear that Sony sold off a substantial portion of their banking enterprise just too fund a PS3 price cut.

If Sony lost literally a quarter of their entire value overnight (again, I can find no evidence that it would even be possible for them to afford to produce that many PS3's at once, they simply do not have the liquid assets necessary to do so) they would enter Chapter 11 (or the Japanese equivelant) immediately.

Their debt versus their leveragable assets would become instantly unmanageable.



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@ greenmedic88

I view the release of Final Fantasy XIII (and release of the slim) as a PS3 turning point for the Japanese market, the PS3 has performed very well in Japan since that game's release. Massive YOY gains.

The PS3 according to trackers has been outselling the Wii for many weeks in a row now.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

@ starcraft

You have just changed your argument substantially.


If you read back, my arguments now are exactly the same as in those discussions.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

MikeB said:
@ starcraft

You have just changed your argument substantially.


If you read back, my arguments now are exactly the same as in those discussions.

You're argument changed in the space of three posts.

From Sony could survive producing and giving away 100 million consoles, too people used to say Sony would be bankrupted by selling the PS3 as usual and this was wrong.

You have simply used selective hearing (reading) to avoid the substantive logic and evidence I have provided that Sony could not produce nor give away 100 million PS3's now or at any point in the past.



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@ starcraft

I think you do selective reading. I always stated Sony's assets are worth so much, even more so that it could even cover such expenses (it was an example of how big the company is).



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

MikeB said:
@ starcraft

I think you do selective reading. I always stated Sony's assets are worth so much, even more so that it could even cover such expenses (it was an example of how big the company is).

An example I have proven to be massive hyperbole and woefully inaccurate...



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