| fastyxx said: I don't see anyone crying that Mormons refuse to watch reruns of Will and Grace. |
Maybe they refuse to watch it because they have good taste in television shows, not out of disdain for homosexuality.
| fastyxx said: I don't see anyone crying that Mormons refuse to watch reruns of Will and Grace. |
Maybe they refuse to watch it because they have good taste in television shows, not out of disdain for homosexuality.
| COKTOE said: Interesting. Distaste for certain companies and their buisness practices have stopped me from buying a game in the past. A card carrying biggot's involvment in a game could definately sway my descision to purchase. Not a slam-dunk ''no'' , but it would give me pause for sure. In the end though, I would probably buy Shadow Complex as he is not the main creative force. Not his baby so to speak. Plus it looks really good! |
The problem with that is other products you buy are made with bigots involved.
In fact try finding something that doesn't have a bigot (or someone who has a differing opinion to you on a subject) involved in the process.
That then makes you the bigot for refusing to buy something because of one person involved or you have a hatred for the company making it.
That must mean that fanboys are all bigots then?
I do agree about actual questionable business prctices. Having an opinion no matter what is one thing, some of the things business' do is quite another.
fastyxx said:
Do you honestly think Card and other Mormons don't choose to purchase products or services produced or endorsed by gay people? Not all. Just not like all people that support GLBT rights will boycott the game. But it's hardly being hypocritical. I don't see anyone crying that Mormons refuse to watch reruns of Will and Grace. |
I'm not decrying the whole mormon or GLBT rights groups, just the people that hold intolerance of others beliefs. I actually happen to be mormon and I happen to have no issues with gay or lesbian rights, more power to them I say. However, mormons are stereotyped as biggoted homophobic people now, which just isn't true.
It's the people on both sides that have this intolerance of other beliefs that I feel is hypocritical. I'm not generalizing groups, but merely the stand outs that express this intolerance, like Card and Wong here. Personally, I believe everybody is created equal and should be treated as such.
badgenome said:
Maybe they refuse to watch it because they have good taste in television shows, not out of disdain for homosexuality. |
lol, me being a mormon I can definetly say this is why I don't watch it! However, I do really like Joss Whedon's shows (which typically have a fairly heavy dose of homosexuality thrown in)
gergroy said:
lol, me being a mormon I can definetly say this is why I don't watch it! However, I do really like Joss Whedon's shows (which typically have a fairly heavy dose of homosexuality thrown in) |
Well, you certainly do have good taste.
| gergroy said: the things people do. How is his intolerance of other peoples beliefs any different from their intolerance of his beliefs. It's all hypocritical to me. |
This.
| fastyxx said: I didn't buy it for this reason. I also didn't buy many other games for similar reasons, whether discrimination, marketed in poor taste, etc. and all games I would otherwise play, such as COD: WaW and LOTR Online. |
Just like Mr.Wong...You jumped the Gun....This game was not Marketed along with with Card's Name...And Card does not make money from the game sales...the book that he was paid to was released three years ago and is a NY times best seller...Chair Would be pretty stupid to pay Card money from the game revnues especially since Card had nothing to do with the game...The game's plot was written by a comic book writter.....
I don't care how you feel about Card....But your not well Informed about the Game Shadow Complex...
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Just like Mr.Wong...You jumped the Gun....This game was not Marketed along with with Card's Name...And Card does not make money from the game sales...the book that he was paid to was released three years ago and is a NY times best seller...Chair Would be pretty stupid to pay Card money from the game revnues especially since Card had nothing to do with the game...The game's plot was written by a comic book writter..... I don't care how you feel about Card....But your not well Informed about the Game Shadow Complex... |
ah, I'm sure Orson Scott Card gets some money from this game. It is basically a prequel to his book. You also hear Card's name associated with this game a lot more than the actual author of the story.
I have to wonder if people know how many games Orson Scott Card has been involved in. You don't hear anybody talking about boycotting sales of the secret of monkey island (of which he was actually responsible for writing some of the script unlike shadow complex).
gergroy said:
I'm not decrying the whole mormon or GLBT rights groups, just the people that hold intolerance of others beliefs. I actually happen to be mormon and I happen to have no issues with gay or lesbian rights, more power to them I say. However, mormons are stereotyped as biggoted homophobic people now, which just isn't true. It's the people on both sides that have this intolerance of other beliefs that I feel is hypocritical. I'm not generalizing groups, but merely the stand outs that express this intolerance, like Card and Wong here. Personally, I believe everybody is created equal and should be treated as such. |
Some of us...Like me..Don't have to be Mormons to disagree with homosexuality...
| gergroy said: the things people do. How is his intolerance of other peoples beliefs any different from their intolerance of his beliefs. It's all hypocritical to me. |
This is exactly how I feel.
I have nothing wrong with gay individuals, but if they want to make a big deal about having the right to express their beliefs and practice, then people should also have the right not to. Just because they are gay does not mean I have to like the idea of it. I'm not going to shun a movie because a director was gay or something. Their sexual preferrence has nothing to do with their professional skills or talents. I don't support gay marriage or anything of the sort because to me it just isn't right and I have all the right in the world to hold that belief whether it is based on experience, religious views, or simply personal choice. Gays have no right to try and make someone tolerant of something just as we have no right to make gays stop being gay.