If it isn't too much to ask, if by any chance Stone Cold ever returns to WWE, could someone PM me? Thanks.
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If it isn't too much to ask, if by any chance Stone Cold ever returns to WWE, could someone PM me? Thanks.
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Is there really any chance at all that Punk beats Undertaker? I know Punk is a very good opponent if they want Taker to look good, and I'm sure he'll bump like crazy, but I can't imagine the WWE letting anyone but Cena break the streak at WM. There isn't even a storyline or buildup for Punk vs. Taker.
Also, anyone else not excited for Lesnar vs. HHH? And I don't even want to think about how bad Henry vs. Puffball is going to be--uh, I can't even think of his name, though I can imagine him failing to get Henry in a Shellshocked thing.
It seems like The Shield is falling flat after that hopeful start. I was anticipating something a lot bigger than meaningless tag team matches every PPV.

@amp, Undertaker only returns for Wrestlemania now. He's too beat up to do anything else.
@AbbathTheGrim rumour had it that Austin was going to wrestle CM Punk at this year's 'Mania, but he's out with knee surgery. If all goes well I see him coming back next year.
@pokoko yeah, they're wasting Shield. They really need to have Heyman working multiple stories. He should be the mouthpiece for both Brock Lesnar and Shield. Lesnar should not be wrestling HHH he should be wrestling Undertaker. But then again Lesnar's pretty stiff since he got back, I don't think Undertaker can take that beating anymore. He's probably wrestling Punk since Punk can put on a match using hold's etc. Ryback vs Henry is gonna be bad. I really think Ryback shouldn't be there, he lacks charisma and wrestling ability.

| darkknightkryta said: @AbbathTheGrim rumour had it that Austin was going to wrestle CM Punk at this year's 'Mania, but he's out with knee surgery. If all goes well I see him coming back next year. |
That would be great. That's my favorite WWE character. I feel like WWE lacks something and that is some attitude and Stone Cold delivers it.
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AbbathTheGrim said:
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If that would have gone on about ten more seconds, that manager was about to feel the Stone Cold Stunner! That's what made Stone Cold and so many other attitude era wrestlers so popular. The were (to a certain extent) the guys they portrayed! It was natural for Stone Cold to be a badass because he was a badass. Now, we have a bunch of kids who watched wrestling and are pretending/acting. That's why they can't find their identity. That's why guys like Cody Rhodes have to change personas every few months. When they become themselves (provided their real personality is entertaining), we'll have something special.
| d21lewis said: If that would have gone on about ten more seconds, that manager was about to feel the Stone Cold Stunner! That's what made Stone Cold and so many other attitude era wrestlers so popular. The were (to a certain extent) the guys they portrayed! It was natural for Stone Cold to be a badass because he was a badass. Now, we have a bunch of kids who watched wrestling and are pretending/acting. That's why they can't find their identity. That's why guys like Cody Rhodes have to change personas every few months. When they become themselves (provided their real personality is entertaining), we'll have something special. |
Cody Rhodes changes his persona every few months cause he's not stupid. He can't risk letting his character go stale. Look at Zack Ryder, he was getting pushed, his character got stale, now he's back on Superstars. Randy Orton's gotten stale, but he also knows they'll never give him gold anymore since he's on his third stirke for wellness, so he's not gonna change. CM Punk changes his characters relatively quickly (Though he's been sitting on this character for a while). Kofi Kingston is going no where cause his character is stale (And he screwed up with Orton). Daniel Bryan needs a gimmick change. You can't sit on your gimmick for long. Brodus Clay got thrown into a team with Tensai cause their characters are getting stale and creative has nothing for them. You have to keep on changing, that was why those older stars were so good. When things got stale they changed things up, it's why CM Punk is the best in the business right now, he's constantly changing.

d21lewis said:
If that would have gone on about ten more seconds, that manager was about to feel the Stone Cold Stunner! That's what made Stone Cold and so many other attitude era wrestlers so popular. The were (to a certain extent) the guys they portrayed! It was natural for Stone Cold to be a badass because he was a badass. Now, we have a bunch of kids who watched wrestling and are pretending/acting. That's why they can't find their identity. That's why guys like Cody Rhodes have to change personas every few months. When they become themselves (provided their real personality is entertaining), we'll have something special. |
Yeah, I always felt they tried to make out of Cena a Sesame Street version of Stone Cold. The only wrestlers I am still kind of interested in are The Rock and The Undertaker. But Undertaker rarely appears now and The Rock is fighting a lot of crap characters and I don't care for that.
The Undertaker will be gone soon, I feel. I think they should do some sort of drama where the soul of The Undertaker is passed on to another wrestler as not to kill off the character completely once The Undertaker retires.
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darkknightkryta said:
Cody Rhodes changes his persona every few months cause he's not stupid. He can't risk letting his character go stale. Look at Zack Ryder, he was getting pushed, his character got stale, now he's back on Superstars. Randy Orton's gotten stale, but he also knows they'll never give him gold anymore since he's on his third stirke for wellness, so he's not gonna change. CM Punk changes his characters relatively quickly (Though he's been sitting on this character for a while). Kofi Kingston is going no where cause his character is stale (And he screwed up with Orton). Daniel Bryan needs a gimmick change. You can't sit on your gimmick for long. Brodus Clay got thrown into a team with Tensai cause their characters are getting stale and creative has nothing for them. You have to keep on changing, that was why those older stars were so good. When things got stale they changed things up, it's why CM Punk is the best in the business right now, he's constantly changing. |
When Triple H finally became "The Game", he stayed there. Aside from a brief stint as "The American Badass", Taker has always been the same. Stone Cold remained the same and when he changed (Heel w/ Mr. McMahon), the audience didn't buy it. Hardy Boyz, Edge and Christian, The Dudley Boys, Kevin Nash, Brock Lesnar, even John Cena--I could go on and on. When they finally find the persona that works, it works. CM Punk keeps changing? Like you said, he's the character he was in Ring of Honor. When he was finally allowed to be the man he was, his stock started rising. He's still the same guy he was when he took Cena's title. Yeah, heel turns and face turns are part of the business. It's when characters find their personality that they get over.
Of course, the "Push" has a lot to do with things, too. You have to be allowed to get over with audiences, either face or heel. They changed Daniel Bryan to a comedic character when he was on a CM Punk level last year this time. They ruined Kane. They couldn't get Tensai over so they changed him. Some guys have it. Some guys never will. No amount of gimmick personas and character changes will ever make them legends.
Watching RAW right now. Fandango just came out to cut a bad promo, again. He's not doing a good job selling his character. His accent is horrible.....I wonder if he's actually going to wrestle.
*edit* once again, no.
d21lewis said:
Of course, the "Push" has a lot to do with things, too. You have to be allowed to get over with audiences, either face or heel. They changed Daniel Bryan to a comedic character when he was on a CM Punk level last year this time. They ruined Kane. They couldn't get Tensai over so they changed him. Some guys have it. Some guys never will. No amount of gimmick personas and character changes will ever make them legends. |
HHH didn't become stale cause he'd be out with injuries a good chunk of the year. Though his "Game" persona changed when he made the "Evolution". Always coming out with a suit and tie. Then he went back to form DX with Shawn Michaels, now he's back to the "Game", but a bit different as he's not a heel and he's not a DX face. Undertaker is the best example of change. Went from putting people into body bags and caskets, to changing his outfit when he fueded with Mankind/Kane. Turned heel and made the Ministry of Darkness, then the Corporate Ministry (They really loved their stables back in the Attitude Era). Went on a hiatus and returned as the American Badass. Got buried by his "brother" Kane to return as The Deadman, which he updated his look (Still like that look best). Now he's the "Deadman MMA Fighter". But Undertaker only wrestles once a year now so it doesn't really matter what his gimmick is. Stone Cold changed, the whole "What" chant came from it, but he's long since gone. Hardy Boys got stale and why Matt is gone atleast. Jeff tries to change, but he's not good at it. Dudley Boys didn't change while they were in WWE, but they got let go for a reason. They tried changing things up in TNA though. Kevin Nash did change from Diesel to what he was in WCW. He did get stale by the time he got to TNA, but he wasn't exactly pulling in the buys for TNA. Brock Lesnar did change, but his face turn was bad. Luckily he makes infrequent appearances. Edge had huge changes, went from trying to save his brother from a vampire, to "Edge and Christian" with their "5 second poses", to that baby face, to the "Rated R Superstar" and then evolving that into a face. Christian also changed, after his tag run he did his horrible gimmick with DDP and then went on to become "Captain Charisma". He got stale now, but he's also out with an injury. If he doesn't come back with something good, he's going to get thrown back into the midcard. Punk went from that "Straight Edge" baby face that'd make John Cena blush, in ECW, to the man who would be "saving people" like Jesus. His hypocracy putting on the mask when he lost his hair when he had his fued with Mysterio was genious. His heel character was getting a bit stale by the time he got to Nexus, but then he made his promo... last year? Or two years ago was it? Anyways he made his promo and he's in his current character, which is starting to go stale. His heel turn bought him time though, the way he cheats, etc, made a good change. You're right about "not having it", but most of the people who do are always adapting. Most guys who are stuck in the mid card are stuck there for a reason. They just milk their characters way past the expiration date.
Edit: Forgot to mention Cena. Cena was changing his character, then corporate took control. Cena's nothing more than a "Yes Man" now. Kind of a shame, who knows what Cena would be like right now.
