Selnor doesn't argue with himself, he does initiate these threads but people argue back. So again, it's not all Selnor, far from it

ROFLMAO

EXACTLY.

there you go sceece you have your answer.

Graphics make a game so much better,

I mean, I would never play a game without anti-aliasing and water effects that can't reflect the light reflecting off your car from the way the sun is positioned in the say. Would you?

No I really don't know why people argue over something that isn't there ...

At least with sales ect, like I said it's good (most of the time) discussion.

i feel GT5 is going to be the bigger and better game and thats what im going to buy.
BUT
one thing people need to remember is that Forza 2 has been in development for 2 years while GT5 has been in development for like 5

This is why :

Just like MS fans took offense when people started comparing Kill zone 2 to Halo 3, Ps3 fans act like no racing game can compare to GT games because they sell 10 million copies.
It's typical fanboy crap.

Source? Plus Polyphony Digital have developed two games since the release of GT4 (Tourist Trophy and GT PSP).

The PS3 wasn't even out five years ago. Not even three. How could be in development for FIVE?

Yeah but Killzone 2 wipes the floor with Halo graphically ... were people really arguing over it?

I doff my hat to you, sir.