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nightsurge said:
Carl2291 said:
Also, do we know yet if the Cell chip is 45nm in the Slim?

Or is that YET to be used?

It states in the article that the Cell and RSX were shrunk, so I'm guessing they are now at 45nm each.

EDIT:  Ok it didn't state that in this article.  It stated it in the article about the 250GB Slim.

the cell processor in the new slim is indeed 45nm and is an enhanced cell processor over the 65nm :

 

Sony's PS3 Slim Carries Updated Cell Chip

Agam Shah, IDG News Service

 

Aug 20, 2009 2:00 am

 

The PlayStation 3 Slim gaming console from Sony Computer Entertainment is not only smaller and cheaper, but adds hardware enhancements that make it speedier, including a new Cell microprocessor.

The gaming console, introduced on Tuesday, is a slimmer and lighter version of older PS3 consoles. It carries a 120GB hard drive, which is an upgrade from the 80GB of storage offered in the earlier PS3. The console will sell for US$299 and become available on September 1. (See "PS3 Slim vs. Xbox 360 Price Fight")

Sony has made some enhancements under the hood to boost its processing speed and power efficiency. The gaming console will carry an upgraded version of the Cell microprocessor, which is being jointly developed by IBM, Sony, and Toshiba.

The new chip has been manufactured using an advanced 45-nanometer manufacturing process, an IBM spokesman said. Based on IBM's Power architecture, the chip delivers many performance improvements while drawing less power than earlier chips, IBM has said. The earlier console carried a Cell processor manufactured using the 65-nm process. IBM declined to provide the clock speed of the new Cell processor.

Chip production enhancements for the Cell could deliver some cost benefits to users, said Jon Peddie, president of Jon Peddie Research. The chips will become more power efficient and users may see some energy savings, Peddie said.

Smaller chips also cost less to produce, which may have contributed to the lower console price, Peddie said. That could also set the stage for further price drops in the future.

On launch, a Sony executive said the advanced manufacturing process was a factor in driving the console's price down.

"We're extremely pleased that we've been able to meet production efficiencies that have allowed us pass those savings on to customers," said President and CEO Jack Tretton, CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment of America, in a video on the official PlayStation Web site.

The console carries a graphics processing unit made by Nvidia, though details about the chip were not immediately available. Nvidia officials declined comment, and Sony officials did not return calls seeking comment.

Earlier consoles carried the RSX GPU developed jointly by Nvidia and Sony. Peddie said that the graphics core in the PS3 Slim has to be identical or similar to the RSX GPUs, otherwise existing games for the PS3 won't run on the new console.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/170482/sonys_ps3_slim_carries_updated_cell_chip.html



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I wonder where pterodactyl is now... "Ps3 will raise the price if they go slim. It will cost more. Look at the PSP Go"



JEDE3 said:
I wonder where pterodactyl is now... "Ps3 will raise the price if they go slim. It will cost more. Look at the PSP Go"

I believe he is extinct. 



JEDE3 said:
I wonder where pterodactyl is now... "Ps3 will raise the price if they go slim. It will cost more. Look at the PSP Go"

I was wondering the same thing



Excellent! Profitable Playstation brand means more games, means more competition, means game quality increases for everyone! This is a win for all gamers!



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nightsurge said:
JEDE3 said:
I wonder where pterodactyl is now... "Ps3 will raise the price if they go slim. It will cost more. Look at the PSP Go"

I believe he is extinct. 


Nice one.



JEDE3 said:
puffy said:
Vetteman94 said:
So the amount they loose on the hardware must not be very much if they are making a profit on the entire PlayStation Brand. Well at least that Sony shareholder on here cant bitch anymore since Sony is now making a profit from its games division.

Really?

Losses on PS3 hardware verses...

- Profit on PS3 games

- Profit on PS3 peripherals

- Profit on PSP hardware(maybe...)

- Profit on PSP games

- Profit on PSP peripherals

- Profit on PS2 hardware

- Profit on PS2 games

- Profit on PS2 periperals

 

hmm...

fixed. Ps2 doesnt sell nearly as much games since there is a huge used market for it. Also with periphrials. How come psp sw is all of a sudden profitable? i thought general thought on this matter was piracy kills profits. And you really don't know what Psp sells for. I can see small profits for PSP. Also, with ps2 price cut I don't see them making more than 10 dollars per unit sold.

Since when piracy kills profit? If it really did, you would see no support at all for those platforms, yet I keep seeing PSP, DS and PC games being made...



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The idea that Sony doesn't profit from PS2 and PSP sales is just ridiculous beyond words.



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dli2k3 said:
JEDE3 said:
puffy said:
Vetteman94 said:
So the amount they loose on the hardware must not be very much if they are making a profit on the entire PlayStation Brand. Well at least that Sony shareholder on here cant bitch anymore since Sony is now making a profit from its games division.

Really?

Losses on PS3 hardware verses...

- Profit on PS3 games

- Profit on PS3 peripherals

- Profit on PSP hardware(maybe...)

- Profit on PSP games

- Profit on PSP peripherals

- Profit on PS2 hardware

- Profit on PS2 games

- Profit on PS2 periperals

 

hmm...

fixed. Ps2 doesnt sell nearly as much games since there is a huge used market for it. Also with periphrials. How come psp sw is all of a sudden profitable? i thought general thought on this matter was piracy kills profits. And you really don't know what Psp sells for. I can see small profits for PSP. Also, with ps2 price cut I don't see them making more than 10 dollars per unit sold.

Since when piracy kills profit? If it really did, you would see no support at all for those platforms, yet I keep seeing PSP, DS and PC games being made...


lol... the support you see is mostly first or second party for Psp. I bet sony bribed the hell out of capcom and ubi for psp exclusives.



outlawauron said:
The idea that Sony doesn't profit from PS2 and PSP sales is just ridiculous beyond words.


That would be why they aren't crossed out ;)