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naznatips on 11 October 2007
Words Of Wisdom said:
*~Onna76~* said:
How come stocks of Capcom has risen 8% after their announcement of Monster Hunter 3 for on the WII and has never risen that fast since 2002??? Because people are concerned? I'm concerned as well at times but passing that stage now and feeling secure about the WII again. Perhaps they should kick some 3rd party developers their asses for messing up several titles on the WII, like takkxyz kind of summed it up for me ;) When I look at a Capcom then there's simply nothing to be worried about!

The worst part is that none of this is new. None of it. However, the developers are just foolish enough to stick their fingers in their ears singing "la-la-la-la" with their heads so far up their arses they can chew on their small intestines even as the Wii is slaughtering in user base numbers. The backlash from which can severely damage good game studios with poor management whom I'd rather not see leave the market.


Bye bye Midway.

Not that they were good in the first place, but we can thank the Wii and the flop of Stranglehold for their impending bankruptcy.   



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superchunk on 11 October 2007

Yeah I read this earlier this morning. Bunch of crap. The 3rd party games that have scored decently from reviews have also sold decently. Look at the highest ranked games so far on Wii, they are all Nintendo products. So who do you think is going to sell better...Nintendo products.

Make a good game, and Nintendo's user base will buy it.



mike_intellivision on 11 October 2007

The Nikkei business article seems to be getting the most play from tech.co.uk which has been very critical of the Wii.

Ironically, it comes out the same day, Capcom pulls Monster Hunter 3 from Sony and delivers it to Nintendo. This despite the previous versions of this franchise being on the PS2.

So which speaks louder?

While not dismissing some of the concern of the developers, my money is on the latter. Bascially, developers who sell rush jobs or poor ports are being penalized. Since most third-party developers were "late to the party" on the Wii, they don't have as much to show for their efforts and they are also concerned about the cost of switching in midstream to another console. But good stuff will sell -- just ask Capcom.

Mike from Morgantown

PS -- I didn't realize this thread was here when I started another similar one. This post is an editted version of the start of the "The Nikkei vs. Capcom" thread. Sorry.



      


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Mars on 11 October 2007

We all know every gen Nintendo domintaes software sales on their consoles, with the wii its ever harder for 3rd party developers.

Just because its not pro wii, does not make it crap.



LordTheNightKnight on 11 October 2007
choirsoftheeye said:
Gamerace said:
I'll give them this - The expanded market the Wii has brought in is a new audience that needs to be catered to differently. I'm sure a lot of developers havn't figured this new dynamic out yet. Look at poor Dewy. Not a great game, but still if they'd got it into more peoples hands or at least eyes, I'm sure it'd have sold better. As is, it's too cute for 'core' gamers and out of sight for everyone else.

Konami catered to NO ONE with their advertising of that game. Jeez.


 Compare that to the marketing for Red Steel, Raving Rabbids, and RE4 Wii Edition. Those are (I think) the top selling 3rd-party Wii games, and what they have in common isn't quality. It's marketing. Imagine if Dewey's Adventure comes over here with at least half the TV ads that Gears of War had (just different kinds of ads).



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DonWii on 11 October 2007
LordTheNightKnight said:
choirsoftheeye said:
Gamerace said:
I'll give them this - The expanded market the Wii has brought in is a new audience that needs to be catered to differently. I'm sure a lot of developers havn't figured this new dynamic out yet. Look at poor Dewy. Not a great game, but still if they'd got it into more peoples hands or at least eyes, I'm sure it'd have sold better. As is, it's too cute for 'core' gamers and out of sight for everyone else.

Konami catered to NO ONE with their advertising of that game. Jeez.


 Compare that to the marketing for Red Steel, Raving Rabbids, and RE4 Wii Edition. Those are (I think) the top selling 3rd-party Wii games, and what they have in common isn't quality. It's marketing. Imagine if Dewey's Adventure comes over here with at least half the TV ads that Gears of War had (just different kinds of ads).

And, on that note, look at Mario Party 8. While panned by reviewers- a bit unfairly, since the biggest complaint is that of sequelitis, not lack of fun- Nintendo did a hell of a job advertising the game. It is a big reason why it is selling so well.

On the other side of the pond, EA's Boogie, while also reviewed poorly, had MAJOR advertisement behind it. The problem was, though, that all of the commercials for the game did not convey what the game was about. The only clue to the content of the game was right at the end, where it says "sing, dance, create". Certainly not as exciting as the Mario Party 8 commercials.



fkusumot on 11 October 2007
Dodece said:
Unfortunately such concerns are not unfounded. The system is atypical for the market. Personally I am not secure with the Wii being a haven for third party development. Many have questioned whether it is a fad or a one game device in the past, and nothing has indicated that it is not. Virtual console, party game, and launch titles all do exceedingly well. While hardcore mature games do surprisingly poor. There very well might be a Wii bubble.

 It's hard being insecure, isn't it. Keep spreading that FUD.



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akrahenbuhl on 11 October 2007

I have friends that have brought the Wii and that don't use it because the 3 party games are not good.  i hear them excited about Halo 3 and wanting an Xbox 360.   



DonWii on 11 October 2007
Dodece said:
Unfortunately such concerns are not unfounded. The system is atypical for the market. Personally I am not secure with the Wii being a haven for third party development. Many have questioned whether it is a fad or a one game device in the past, and nothing has indicated that it is not. Virtual console, party game, and launch titles all do exceedingly well. While hardcore mature games do surprisingly poor. There very well might be a Wii bubble.

Interesting, since the Two of the Three Best selling Third Party titles are both mature, Red Steel and Resident Evil 4 Wii, and Three of the Five Best selling First party titles(Not including Wii Play and Wii Sports) are The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario, and Metroid Prime 3 Corruption.

Methinks you speak from you'r arse.



DonWii on 11 October 2007
akrahenbuhl said:
I have friends that have brought the Wii and that don't use it because the 3 party games are not good.  i hear them excited about Halo 3 and wanting an Xbox 360.   
I have friends that have brought the Xbox 360 and don't use it because teh Halo! was a let down. i hear them excited about Super Mario Galaxy and wanting an Wii.