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    Operating Income (U.S. Dollars in millions)
 Combined Figures
 FY End
 EDD OSB
H&E
MED
 MSN  CSSD CCI Other
 C&O  CCO
 -$1,050,000,000  1998                                     (1,050) (1,050)
 -$1,241,000,000  1999  (1,241)  (1,072)
-$1,064,000,000
 2000  (1,090)
(60)
 86 (1,455)
          
-$1,791,000,000
 2001  (1,666)  (222)  97          
-$1,852,000,000
 2002  (866) (240)
 (746) (1,778)
 23 59
-$1,484,000,000
 2003  (938)  (164)  (384)                      
-$734,000,000
 2004  (1,011)  (116)  393
$6,000,000
 2005  (464) 470
 (451)  (37)  477
-$1,135,000,000
 2006  (1,329) 194  (1,283)  (11) 111
-$2,562,000,000
 2007  (1,945) (617)
         
-$979,000,000
 2008  325  (1,304)
-$2,386,000,000
 2009  5  (2,391)
-$16,272,000,000
Total    Figures not used Segments containing XBox/360





  • Entertainment & Devices Division (EDD) – Xbox 360 console and games; Xbox Live; Zune; Mediaroom; numerous consumer software and hardware products (such as mice and keyboards); Windows Mobile software platform; Windows Embedded device operating system; and Windows Automotive.
  • Online Services Business  (OSB)– Bing; Microsoft adCenter/adExpert; Microsoft Media Network (MMN); MSN portals, channels, and mobile services; Windows Live suite of applications and mobile services; Atlas online tools for advertisers and publishers; MSN Premium Web Services (consisting of MSN Internet Software Subscription, MSN Hotmail Plus, and MSN Software Services); and Razorfish media agency services.

  • Home and Entertainment (H&E)  – Xbox 360; Xbox; Xbox Live; CPxG (consumer software and hardware products); and IPTV.
  • Mobile and Embedded Devices (MED)  – Windows Mobile software platform; Windows Embedded device operating system; and Windows Automotive.
  • MSN - MSN Search; MapPoint; MSN Internet Access; MSN Premium Web Services (consisting of MSN Internet Software Subscription, MSN Hotmail Plus, MSN Bill Pay, and MSN Radio Plus); Windows Live; and MSN Mobile Services.

  • Consumer Software, Services, and Devices (CSSD)  - Xbox video game system, MSN Internet Access, MSN Network Services, PC and Online Games, Learning and Productivity Software, Mobility, and Embedded Systems.
  • Consumer Commerce Investments (CCI) - HomeAdvisor online real estate service and the CarPoint online automotive service
  • Other - (Hardware Group) Hardware peripherals,  (Microsoft Press). Reference books and training software for Microsoft products.

  • Consumer and Other (C&O) - (the Consumer Group) MSN Internet Access; WebTV(R) Internet Service; MSN Portal and vertical properties (CarPoint and Home Advisor).

  • Consumer, Commerce, and Other (CCO) - (Consumer and Commerce Group)   MSN Internet Access; WebTV(R) Internet Service; MSN Portal and vertical properties; and MSN Commerce Platforms. (Home and Retail Division) Consumer software categories: Learning, productivity, personal finance, entertainment. And hardware peripherals.

Figure Sources:

Entertainment & Devices Division / Online Services Business

2007 – 2009: “Calendar Year 2009 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 77

2006: “Calendar Year 2008 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 70

2005: “Calendar Year 2007 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 67

Home and Entertainment / Mobile and Embedded Devices / MSN

2004 – 2006: “Calendar Year 2006 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 69

2003: “Calendar Year 2005 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 66

2002: “Calendar Year 2004 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 60

Consumer Software, Services, and Devices / Consumer Commerce Investments / Other

2000 – 2002: “Calendar Year 2002 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 37

Consumer and Other

1998 - 2000: “Calendar Year 2000 filings” - “Form 10K” - Page 17

Consumer Commerce, and Other

1998 – 1999: “Calendar Year 1999 filings” - “Form 10K” - “Segment Information”



Operating Income (U.S. Dollars in millions)














Combined Figures FY End EDD OSB H&E MED MSN CSSD CCI Other C&O CCO
-$1,050,000,000 1998







(1,050) (1,050)
-$1,241,000,000 1999







(1,241) (1,072)
-$1,064,000,000 2000




(1,090) (60) 86 (1,455)
-$1,791,000,000 2001




(1,666) (222) 97

-$1,852,000,000 2002

(866) (240) (746) (1,778) 23 59

-$1,484,000,000 2003

(938) (162) (384)




-$734,000,000 2004

(1,011) (116) 393




$6,000,000 2005 (464) 470 (451) (37) 477




-$1,135,000,000 2006 (1,329) 194 (1,283) (11) 111




-$2,562,000,000 2007 (1,945) (617)







-$979,000,000 2008 325 (1,304)







-$2,386,000,000 2009 5 (2,391)







Total
Divisions Xbox appears in Numbers not used


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In Engrish, please?



What, son, what? New York, New York!!!

The Xbox brand lost Microsoft a shit load of money but it's more or less stopped bleeding now.

The new big loss making venture is now Bing, but since it's a better search engine than shitty Google, who care?



Persons without argument hide behind their opinion

It'll take them a long time to break even on the whole Xbox business (since the original's launch) at the current rate.



There doing fine, there making a nice profit now and most likely broke even.



 

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Lesson is that is is costly to break into the consoel market, especially when you lack the infastructure to do so. The upside is that once you get the processes and infastrucure in place, you can make big money.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

Good to see xbox making a profit .

It's not good for the industry to have companies selling consoles at a loss, even if you hate them, Sony, you're next, hopefully the Slim will finally make you some money.

Sadly, it's going to take more than that little 5 in 2009 to make up for the previous years.



BTW...I'm not sure i understand your charts...specifically...

Operating incomes for 2008 and 2009...where are you getting those figures from?



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

there still loosing a shit load of money, 360 still at 50 percent fail rate , after how many years.



Its unfortunate that Windows Mobile is being pummelled, because otherwise they would show some nice profit figures off.



Tease.