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Xoj on 18 August 2009
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
RPG said:
The GT5 pic posted by Selnor aka the biggest Gran Turismo fanboy evar is indeed the mother of all bullshots. It's actually a GT5 model car on a GT PSP track which is embarrassing. That said the Eurogamer article is beyond retarded especially when he starts mentioning GT5:P to GT5.

That GT5 trailer was nothing special and anyone who has played GT5:P will know that the replay mode looks very good. Sure GT5 will not be not quite up to that GT5 trailer but it will be very close. Has to be said..........Forza 3 screens so far have all been bullshots and anyone whom visits Gaf will know that chespace even mentioned it. With class though it must be said mentioning how he will post gameplay shots of the cars when Polyphony Digital do so.

Tomorrow is going to be very fun; I call dibs on the GT5 thread which will be full of PD hate led by me if GT5 is not shown at Gamescom. PD will NOT ruin by birthday. >:(

Forza 3 Screenshots and Videos. We released a generous helping of Forza Motorsport 3 screenshots and videos this week. If you haven't seen them yet, go check 'em out in our Media Gallery. There are some things you should know about these screenshots. First of all, at Turn 10, we don't bullshot -- which means everything you see here is real-time taken from in-game gameplay. The E3 batch was taken back in early May, and given how the development process works, the game is improving just about daily, so the bottomline is that these screenshots are from a work-in-progress. Naturally, the game will actually look better by the time it comes out later this fall. The reason why you might have mistaken these screenshots as faked, touched-up, or embellished art is because Forza 3 is an exceedingly gorgeous game.

There's really no bigger graphics junkie than myself at Turn 10 and I'm constantly surprised by just how insanely next generation the game looks from a visual standpoint. Not only have the cars themselves gotten much more detailed, our 100+ tracks in the game provide some truly inspired locales to fuel your car passion. Much of the leap in graphical fidelity with Forza 3 was made possible by our game engine developers, whom, in the early days (think summer of 2007) set out to rebuild a new renderer and content pipeline for Forza 3. So just like before, Forza 3 runs at a glassy smooth 60 frames-per-second, with our physics calculating underneath the hood at a much higher framerate. New shaders and tech puts the finishing touches on an already handsome Forza Motorsport 2. Likewise, with the gameplay video, everything was captured in-game with no faked CG whatsoever. At Turn 10, we don't do bullshots.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/pitpass1.htm

Official website. This being written on there means if they did post bullshots they can be sued for millions for false advertisement.

He doesn't seem to know what a bullshot is. He just said there was no faked CGI, and it was all in game. Which is true. That doesn't mean they're not bullshots, did you read the article you posted?

Did you miss this info here?

As I said, false advertisment if they are lying. They state it has NOT been touched up in any way.

because it's engine work, the ENGINE touched it for replay mode. not them.



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libellule on 18 August 2009

I think people should stop using pics and focus on video

point.

look at the PSP pics :

the corvette one are just fake (too good)
while the actual pics are just not representative ...

focus on gameplay video !



Time to Work !

nen-suer on 18 August 2009
yo_john117 said:

Wow to this thread!  There's quite alot of FUD going around.

You reminded me of Megadude



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selnor on 18 August 2009
Xoj said:
selnor said:
Kantor said:
selnor said:
RPG said:
The GT5 pic posted by Selnor aka the biggest Gran Turismo fanboy evar is indeed the mother of all bullshots. It's actually a GT5 model car on a GT PSP track which is embarrassing. That said the Eurogamer article is beyond retarded especially when he starts mentioning GT5:P to GT5.

That GT5 trailer was nothing special and anyone who has played GT5:P will know that the replay mode looks very good. Sure GT5 will not be not quite up to that GT5 trailer but it will be very close. Has to be said..........Forza 3 screens so far have all been bullshots and anyone whom visits Gaf will know that chespace even mentioned it. With class though it must be said mentioning how he will post gameplay shots of the cars when Polyphony Digital do so.

Tomorrow is going to be very fun; I call dibs on the GT5 thread which will be full of PD hate led by me if GT5 is not shown at Gamescom. PD will NOT ruin by birthday. >:(

Forza 3 Screenshots and Videos. We released a generous helping of Forza Motorsport 3 screenshots and videos this week. If you haven't seen them yet, go check 'em out in our Media Gallery. There are some things you should know about these screenshots. First of all, at Turn 10, we don't bullshot -- which means everything you see here is real-time taken from in-game gameplay. The E3 batch was taken back in early May, and given how the development process works, the game is improving just about daily, so the bottomline is that these screenshots are from a work-in-progress. Naturally, the game will actually look better by the time it comes out later this fall. The reason why you might have mistaken these screenshots as faked, touched-up, or embellished art is because Forza 3 is an exceedingly gorgeous game.

There's really no bigger graphics junkie than myself at Turn 10 and I'm constantly surprised by just how insanely next generation the game looks from a visual standpoint. Not only have the cars themselves gotten much more detailed, our 100+ tracks in the game provide some truly inspired locales to fuel your car passion. Much of the leap in graphical fidelity with Forza 3 was made possible by our game engine developers, whom, in the early days (think summer of 2007) set out to rebuild a new renderer and content pipeline for Forza 3. So just like before, Forza 3 runs at a glassy smooth 60 frames-per-second, with our physics calculating underneath the hood at a much higher framerate. New shaders and tech puts the finishing touches on an already handsome Forza Motorsport 2. Likewise, with the gameplay video, everything was captured in-game with no faked CG whatsoever. At Turn 10, we don't do bullshots.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/pitpass1.htm

Official website. This being written on there means if they did post bullshots they can be sued for millions for false advertisement.

He doesn't seem to know what a bullshot is. He just said there was no faked CGI, and it was all in game. Which is true. That doesn't mean they're not bullshots, did you read the article you posted?

Did you miss this info here?

As I said, false advertisment if they are lying. They state it has NOT been touched up in any way.

because it's engine work, the ENGINE touched it for replay mode. not them.

Well you obviously haven't seen when Turn 10 went out of their way to show that replay is exactly the same as gameplay. in this video.



libellule on 18 August 2009

@selnor,

your video just underline how the pics look GODLIKE

compared to the actual video (for FM3)

photomode =/= gameplay

@Xoj

probleme is not even replay, probleme is photomode



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selnor on 18 August 2009
libellule said:
@selnor,

your video just underline how the pics look GODLIKE

compared to the actual video (for FM3)

photomode =/= gameplay

@Xoj

probleme is not even replay, probleme is photomode


I dont understand. The video clearly shows ( If you compare to the shots from the same time frame, May June build )it looks exactly the same as those shots. No enhancements. Watch it in HD for even further confirmation. He physically pauses it and shows the game world in all it's textured glory. When he pauses there is no extra enhancements at all. It does not load into a new mode ( like PGR4 or GT5P photomodes or replay ) it just is the engine. Phenomenal.



Serious_frusting on 18 August 2009

Heres Forza 3. and yes this real in real time running on the hardware and has not been doctored in anyway.

Yes the 360 is capable at 60millionAA. This allows the game not to have one jaggie



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Serious_frusting on 18 August 2009

Tut looks what teh fanboys have done. They have tampered with the image to produce jaggies. What vile GT5 lover has done this?????????



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wholikeswood on 18 August 2009

Selnor, you literally picked about the worst scaled image of GTPSP possible.

Just look at the videos; irrefutable proof of the game's good looks.



yo_john117 on 18 August 2009
nen-suer said:
yo_john117 said:

Wow to this thread!  There's quite alot of FUD going around.

You reminded me of Megadude

lol, this thread reminded me of megadude!  Ah his FUD thread was pretty epic.