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geddesmond2 said:
Yeah Sony publishes there games and they have a great relationship with Sony the same way they do with Naughty dog but Sony still doesn't fund there games which is what was said


You do know that's basically what publisher does, right?



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You do know that he is Altair's descendants don't you?

So what? He'll probably have to perform a few thousand repetitive assassinations before it's my turn. Chances are he gets bored and retires.

That could only be said about the people who didn't appreciate the game, not people like me who have finished it over a half a dozen times becoming stealthier with each playthrough. I'll have you know that I stealth assassinate every target possible on my first try and can finish the game in less than 7 hours. Chances are I'll take you out for fun while im gathering info on my first target. :P



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geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
... I wonder.... geddesmond do you know what a publisher is?

Yes publishers are responsible for getting the games out to the public. What are you getting at here


LOL... yes. They do a lot more.

I'd like to remind you that not all the time publishers fund a project. Just because Sony published the games and own the rights doesn't mean they funded them. Now what I'm saying here is usually when someones independant, it means they've done something without any help so to speak and why would a company thats sold over 30 million games worldwide need funding on games that probably had a 20m budget. As a company Insomniac would make more money if they funded the game themselfs and I really doubt they needed the funding .

Its been said on record that sony helps insomniac out like it was a first party. They work alongside sony first party devs and use sony resources, They even shared the building with Sony devs before. Probably still do. They get dev kits the same time as Sony's first parties?

 

End off. Even the ceo of insomniac said we are like a firsty party dev but with the freedom of being independent



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CGI-Quality said:
Crazymann said:

Insomniac are being lazy - confirmed.

After all every time Valve is mentioned, a flood of comments are made about how lazy they are. Even though they have as many valid reasons to not support PS3 as Insomniac has to not support Wii60. In the last post there were even posts wishing death on Valve staff. Good job, zealots! Makes me proud to own a PS3.

For the record, I love Insomniac games.

Insomniac has always only developed on PlayStation systems though. I'm not saying Valve is lazy, in fact I don't say that about devs because in a business, you have to understand that things don't always work so clear cut. I'm just saying that the scenario is a bit different...


I never meant to imply that YOU were in the wrong, and I have never heard you say anything objectionable on the subject.  There are others who DO say such things - despite the hipocrasy of them then being happy about Insomniac.  I agree that Insomniac should stay exclusive, I just don't think that Valve should be falted for doing the same.



CGI-Quality said:
geddesmond2 said:
CGI-Quality said:
geddesmond2 said:
Yeah Sony publishes there games and they have a great relationship with Sony the same way they do with Naughty dog but Sony still doesn't fund there games which is what was said

Sony OWNS Insomniac's developed games. Different from Naughty Dog, Naughty Dog is OWNED by Sony. Just for clarification.

Just to clarify I know Naughty dog is owned by Sony. I was talking about Insomniac and Naughty Dogs relationship with each other which goes back to PS1 days. Anyway just because Sony owns these games doesn't mean they funded them. Maybe they did maybe they didn't. neither of them ever stated Sony funded them so only they know but if Sony did fund them then it takes the whole independant studio thing from them which is of the things they are know for

Just because they are independant doesn't mean Sony won't fund the IPs, at least not to my knowledge. Funding a project that you own isn't the same as moneyhatting, if that's what you're getting at. Sony can't moneyhat their own IPs.

You are making me laugh...HARD!



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CGI-Quality said:
heruamon said:
OMG....I can't believe it....OMG....WTF...OMG...they aren' going multi-plat....OMG....

Oh, sorry, this isn't Valve, and I'm not a nut about my platform of choice...great for them....glad to see the $$$ works to make it a smart decision.

Dude, spare your frustrations, this isn't a thread for that...

In fact, I don't get a lot of the frustration in here. It really isn't that serious.

Frustration...more like comedy at the hypocrites...and all the spinning that's going on.  Money-hatting vs. Funding a 3rd party...pure comedy.



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CGI-Quality said:
Crazymann said:
CGI-Quality said:
Crazymann said:

Insomniac are being lazy - confirmed.

After all every time Valve is mentioned, a flood of comments are made about how lazy they are. Even though they have as many valid reasons to not support PS3 as Insomniac has to not support Wii60. In the last post there were even posts wishing death on Valve staff. Good job, zealots! Makes me proud to own a PS3.

For the record, I love Insomniac games.

Insomniac has always only developed on PlayStation systems though. I'm not saying Valve is lazy, in fact I don't say that about devs because in a business, you have to understand that things don't always work so clear cut. I'm just saying that the scenario is a bit different...


I never meant to imply that YOU were in the wrong, and I have never heard you say anything objectionable on the subject.  There are others who DO say such things - despite the hipocrasy of them then being happy about Insomniac.  I agree that Insomniac should stay exclusive, I just don't think that Valve should be falted for doing the same.

I agree with you. I just think the reasoning for both is different.

Agreed!  Insomniac has very close ties with Sony as well as preferential funding = good reasons to stay exclusive.  Valve is primarily a PC Software company with a limited focus, and ties to Microsoft = good reasons to stay exclusive.  I have no problem with Insomniac or Valve.  It is after all, their respective businesses.

I do have a problem with the constant personal assaults on Newell and Valve whenever they are brought up - by members other than you.  However, that has nothing to do with this thread, so I won't bring it up here again.



Serious_frusting said:
geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
... I wonder.... geddesmond do you know what a publisher is?

Yes publishers are responsible for getting the games out to the public. What are you getting at here


LOL... yes. They do a lot more.

I'd like to remind you that not all the time publishers fund a project. Just because Sony published the games and own the rights doesn't mean they funded them. Now what I'm saying here is usually when someones independant, it means they've done something without any help so to speak and why would a company thats sold over 30 million games worldwide need funding on games that probably had a 20m budget. As a company Insomniac would make more money if they funded the game themselfs and I really doubt they needed the funding .

Its been said on record that sony helps insomniac out like it was a first party. They work alongside sony first party devs and use sony resources, They even shared the building with Sony devs before. Probably still do. They get dev kits the same time as Sony's first parties?

 

End off. Even the ceo of insomniac said we are like a firsty party dev but with the freedom of being independent

I don't even know where that came from. I'm talking about the funding of the game not the relationship between the two. I even said sony and Insomniac have a great relationship but none of that mentions funding. All I'm saying is an independant bussiness usually falls into a proprietorship and they fund there projects and suffer the loses or take the profits of that bussiness.

 

So if Sony funds Insomniac then it takes the whole independant status away from them right?Like the word independent does mean not relying on others for aid and support. Someone needs to put me straight because its the publishers job to manufacter, market and advertise the games. Publishers don't always fund a game and yous all know what independent means

 

 

 



geddesmond2 said:
Serious_frusting said:
geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
geddesmond2 said:
JEDE3 said:
... I wonder.... geddesmond do you know what a publisher is?

Yes publishers are responsible for getting the games out to the public. What are you getting at here


LOL... yes. They do a lot more.

I'd like to remind you that not all the time publishers fund a project. Just because Sony published the games and own the rights doesn't mean they funded them. Now what I'm saying here is usually when someones independant, it means they've done something without any help so to speak and why would a company thats sold over 30 million games worldwide need funding on games that probably had a 20m budget. As a company Insomniac would make more money if they funded the game themselfs and I really doubt they needed the funding .

Its been said on record that sony helps insomniac out like it was a first party. They work alongside sony first party devs and use sony resources, They even shared the building with Sony devs before. Probably still do. They get dev kits the same time as Sony's first parties?

 

End off. Even the ceo of insomniac said we are like a firsty party dev but with the freedom of being independent

I don't even know where that came from. I'm talking about the funding of the game not the relationship between the two. I even said sony and Insomniac have a great relationship but none of that mentions funding. All I'm saying is an independant bussiness usually falls into a proprietorship and they fund there projects and suffer the loses or take the profits of that bussiness.

 

So if Sony funds Insomniac then it takes the whole independant status away from them right?Like the word independent does mean not relying on others for aid and support. Someone needs to put me straight because its the publishers job to manufacter, market and advertise the games. Publishers don't always fund a game and yous all know what independent means

 

 

 


you have a skewed idea of what independent means in this situation.

RolStoppable said:
CGI-Quality said:
RolStoppable said:
CGI-Quality said:
RolStoppable said:
They aren't making any Wii games? What a lazy bunch of developers.

lol...?

As a big Insomniac fan (60 % of the PS1 games I bought are from them), I demand them to make their games also for the Wii. They would be stupid to leave out 52 million potential customers.

I think your demand is pointless, it's obvious that's not happening. Besides, they'd have to make new IPs, all of their current ones are owned by Sony.

Well, that explains why I haven't bought any Insomniac games after the PS1 era.

your loss, or one more of your losses among many many many others