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Bah. Why not add a LCD screen and sell it like a portable while they're at it?

My take on this: The PS3 slim will have all the features of the current 80GB PS3, *probably* an upgrade to the HDD size. Sony will sell it at $350.

Current "fat" PS3 price will be slashed $100 until all units in inventory are completely depleted. After that the PS3 slim will be the only SKU in production and it will sell for $300.



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No sources I am afraid I picked up most of this scuttlebutt up off non public forums, and nobody was claiming credentials, or even origination. From what I gather this rumor is just running through low end forums. It isn't even entirely consistent it has some common characteristics which I shared. Personally I am not really interested in the validity as much as the novelty. It is an interesting idea to say the least.

As I said didn't particularly want to share, but felt it was better to do so. At least it is a lateral shift in thought. Needless to say I read dozens of rumors each day without any citation. Perhaps I am visiting the places where most rumors just start. They are often places with really dry minutia like patent listings, and website registration alterations. Some members of these groups even go so far as to scour source material from artists portfolios, and are not above diving into suburban trash cans. So they can be some pretty crazy places.

Personally I am wagering the rumor is a compilation of compiled data. So I would say it is largely anecdotal. One person starts the ball rolling with a interesting discovery, and others just do a lot of digging to find data that supports or detracts. It may seem silly, but often enough they do get their teeth into something. Just by looking at things nobody else can be bothered to look at.

Hell last year one of them pegged a studio closing a month before anyone else did, because they checked realty listings. Not soon after someone had called the studios cleaning service, had looked up online resumes, and even called up the studio as a member of the city council looking for charitable donations.

So take it for what is worth. I personally don't repeat most of what I get off of those forums. It isn't necessarily the best source of information. I usually use it more like a gauge of where things might be heading.



dbot said:
That's a pretty dramatic redesign. The problem with removing the hard drive is compatibility with titles that require an install. Internal memory would need to be greater than 10 gig to allow up to 2 installed games at a time. The faster Blu-ray speed would remove the install requirement for newer PS3's, but it doesn't seem likely that developers will revisit their existing games to patch out the install. Many of them refuse to provide a trophy patch, I suspect that this would take much more work than that. It would be an interesting approach, but I don't think it's likely.

Would you care to provide the source of the rumor, or at least provide the credentials?

This is the first thing that crossed my mind. How do you make the HD SKU confusion even worse? Make a PS3 that can't even run all PS3 games.

Not that chewing on rumours isn't fun, Dodece, but have any of the rumours you've posted here actually come true?



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Dodece said:

I have debated whether to share this particular rumor on these forums for the past few days. I think it will be seen as fairly inflammatory. Honestly I cannot say I do not see it as being any less then a invitation to righteous anger. This rumor goes right to the heart of what you think a PS3 ought to be. So for some it will be seen as a threat. However since the debate is shifting to possible pricing, and how Sony will be able to cut costs. I think this rumor needs to be shared, because if nothing else it only adds to constructive discussion. Before I go on let me reiterate that this is only a rumor I heard. I am not even claiming that I believe it myself. Please no knee jerk emotional responses. Think about it, and share your thoughts about how feasible this rumor actually is or is not. In other words keep the profanity to a minimum, and your civility at its maximum.

RUMOR

The new PS3 model that is being called the Slim is actually closer to a Core. This isn't hyperbole either it is quite clearly a core PS3. The new model will no longer have wireless capability. Will have almost all additional readers and ports removed. They will have also removed the hard drive from the console replaced by a cheaper internal memory. Though installation of a drive will be possible. The console will obviously not be capable of online play out of the box. Positive modifications will be a redesign of the motherboard allowing for a few new chips one being an emotion emulator, and two that will help with data management and storage. The BluRay drives read speed is also seeing a very marked increase.

I know it sounds implausible, and I entirely agree with you. The crux of the entire rumor is that the new BluRay drive, and the new chipsets will allow the system to function without a hard drive, and thus the machine would only need to be modestly online capable perhaps through a ethernet port. However if it is true it will be a massive reduction in production costs. This console may cost as much as a Wii. This rumor also does not preclude Sony having a higher end model. Honestly I am not even sure this rumor is technologically feasible. Though it definitely matches some of the rhetoric we have been reading. This could give the PS3 a seventy percent price reduction from launch prices.

Beyond the technological it seems viable. It isn't as if Sony has not done this before. So it would be in line with their thinking, and frankly it is the best option for Sony to move forward dramatically on the price front. To move to a feature light model. Anyway what is everyones thoughts about this. Do you think it is possible. Do you think this is what Sony is doing or has done. Once again don't maul me. I was really reluctant to post this, and only did so, because I thought it was necessary for the ongoing discussion.

I'll account bet you that the bolded red assumptions are wrong, what say you?



Some people are taking this rumour way too seriously and just trying to be confrontational over it. If you think it's bs then why bother posting in his thread to start with, sure a lot of this isn't going to happen such as no online capability but there is some merit to certain features. It's no secret the PS3 is too expensive when compared to it's closest rival, the only way Sony can close that gap is to compete on price, in this regard a cut down model makes perfect sense ultimately.

For those obviously convinced that wireless isn't a feature you would save much by cutting, I suspect it alone could provide as much as 5-10$ savings, when you think of that over 10 million consoles, that's coming close to funding another exclusive game.

Thanks for the post Dodece, like other rumours around right now I'll take it with a pinch of salt. I find it strange some posters in here have absolute faith in GT5 arriving this year, a slim PS3 and a price cut all based off rumour then proceed to lambast someone for posting other rumours.



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LOL - sony doesn't need to strip it of anything to be able to afford the drop. It's simple mathematics.



JEDE3 said:
LOL - sony doesn't need to strip it of anything to be able to afford the drop. It's simple mathematics.


Was that the same when they dropped the 60GB for the 40GB model?  It's not simple in the slightest cutting costs.



I think I have only posted a few rumors I found on these forums in the past, and each time I said that I did not believe they were credible. In fact I made it a point to say they weren't credible. They were posted primarily due to the fact that they were novel. As in that they were entertaining only, or were thought provoking.

Sometimes rumors aren't about something being true. The vast majority of the time rumors aren't true, or at the least not entirely on mark. The point of this rumor isn't for you to believe it. The point is that it is an interesting notion.

This is part of why I was reluctant to post this. Too many members are overly militant on these forums. So they are easily incensed by anything that isn't about reinforcing their existing notions.



Why can't we wait until some specs are actually confirmed?

I doubt they will remove the HDD since there are quite a few games that require it. I doubt WiFi will go, simply because Remote Play is a huge thing SONY's backing up.



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Dodece said:
I think I have only posted a few rumors I found on these forums in the past, and each time I said that I did not believe they were credible. In fact I made it a point to say they weren't credible. They were posted primarily due to the fact that they were novel. As in that they were entertaining only, or were thought provoking.

Sometimes rumors aren't about something being true. The vast majority of the time rumors aren't true, or at the least not entirely on mark. The point of this rumor isn't for you to believe it. The point is that it is an interesting notion.

This is part of why I was reluctant to post this. Too many members are overly militant on these forums. So they are easily incensed by anything that isn't about reinforcing their existing notions.

So are we account betting or what?