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Samus Aran on 02 August 2009

Yes, but I also said that most people find a job after 1-2 years using this system.
Yes, some people leech from this sytem, but the majority of the people do not. It's a good system, not a perfect one.



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SamuelRSmith on 02 August 2009
Samus Aran said:

Yes, but I also said that most people find a job after 1-2 years using this system.
Yes, some people leech from this sytem, but the majority of the people do not. It's a good system, not a perfect one.

But you then also said

"You've never been to the French speaking part of Belgium have you?

You'd have to teach them the word work first."



Slimebeast on 02 August 2009
Samus Aran said:

Then why is the economy of the USA such a mess compared to the one from Belgium?

One of the requirements to get this unemployment check is that you have to search for a job otherwise they'll cut you of. A lot of people that can't work anymore because of some unforeseen circumstances benefit from this system.


You are very young, that's why u lack perspective. You shouldn't be involved in this discussion with your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Belgium is infamous even in social-democratic Sweden for being an even more socialist ruled country than us, having a messed up and rotten economy for decades, with a huge state budget deficit and government debt (~80% of GDP) and chronical mass unemployment.

USA on the other hand is going through a temporary economical Crysis after showing record growth for over a decade. The US economy will recover quickly because it's a dynamic and fundamentally very strong economy.



Samus Aran on 02 August 2009

Yeah, those guys are lazy.

The Dutch speaking part is a lot bigger and that happens to be the part I live in.
There are about 6 million Dutch people in Belgium and 3 million french speaking people.



Samus Aran on 02 August 2009
Slimebeast said:
Samus Aran said:

Then why is the economy of the USA such a mess compared to the one from Belgium?

One of the requirements to get this unemployment check is that you have to search for a job otherwise they'll cut you of. A lot of people that can't work anymore because of some unforeseen circumstances benefit from this system.


You are very young, that's why u lack perspective. You shouldn't be involved in this discussion with your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Belgium is infamous even in social-democratic Sweden for being an even more socialist ruled country than us, having a messed up and rotten economy for decades, with a huge state budget deficit and government debt (~80% of GDP) and chronical mass unemployment.

USA on the other hand is going through a temporary economical Crysis after showing record growth for over a decade. The US economy will recover quickly because it's a dynamic and fundamentally very strong economy.


Lol, the debt from the US is ENORMOUS. We don't have a rotten economy. Congo has a rotten ecnomy if you really want to name a country with a rotten economy. If Belgium had such a rotten economy then why would it be in the top 10(or 20 now) countries to live in?

http://zfacts.com/p/461.html

Ps: I've studied Economy(main course in case you don't know how our schools work here) in High school. Sure, I found it boring, but I do have some knowledge about economy.

 



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Kasz216 on 02 August 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Samus Aran said:

 

SamuelRSmith said:
FootballFan said:
Samus Aran said:


I hate America... You're not allowed to do a thing there and they have no health care and if you don't have a job then you don't get money there... People without a job still get minimum wage here lol.

The police even asked for my id once because I was drinking beer with my friends and then they said we were too young. I'm 18 years old for crying out loud. How is that too young?
America has some beautiful places though like the grand canyon.

Same in England. Do you think these people deserve the minimun wage? Because sometimes i think it would be better off me sitting around not doing anything over having a full time job getting the same pay...

No they don't, JSA (unemployment benefits, essentally) is £60 a week... hardly minimum wage.

http://www.dsdni.gov.uk/index/ssa/benefit_information/benefit_rates.htm#jsa_cont

Because everyone in the world lives in North America and the UK right?

 

Sheesh... Here in Belgium you get €900 a month if you have no job. The only thing you need to do is to proof you're looking for a job... But it's easy to just call someone if they are hiring someone and then put down the phone. You also need to have worked atleast a few months before you're entitled to it, but obviously that's not a hard thing to do. A lot of people take advantage from it, but oh well... It's better then having a country filled with poor people.

EDIT: Oh, I didn't see you quoted some guy that was responding to me. My bad.

You say that as if it's a good thing...

Yeah... I thought he was sarcastic.



Samus Aran on 02 August 2009

My friends dad used this for a year and if it wasn't for this system they would probably have been homeless...

But I guess saving 3 euros of your paycheck is more important then an appartment to a poor family right?

Yeah, I agree, this system is horrible.

Ps: My last line is sarcasm Kasz.



SamuelRSmith on 02 August 2009
Samus Aran said:

My friends dad used this for a year and if it wasn't for this system they would probably have been homeless...

But I guess saving 3 euros of your paycheck is more important then an appartment to a poor family right?

Yeah, I agree, this system is horrible.

Ps: My last line is sarcasm Kasz.

You don't need 900 Euros a month to survive, if you do, your country has two problems:

1) The cost of living is too high
2) The minimum wage is too low.



Samus Aran on 02 August 2009

Uhm, tell your parents to only spend 900 euros a month.

My parents sure as hell wouldn't be able to do that. We spend like 400-500 euros alone on food a month.

Then we still need to pay the electricity, water bills, taxes, paying back the loans from our house(Almost no one can buy a house without lending money from a bank)



SamuelRSmith on 02 August 2009
Samus Aran said:
Uhm, tell your parents to only spend 900 euros a month.

My parents sure as hell wouldn't be able to do that. We spend like 400-500 euros alone on food a month.

Then we still need to pay the electricity, water bills, taxes, paying back the loans from our house(Almost no one can buy a house without lending money from a bank)

I meant "one of two problems", so your minimum wage is too low.

And most of those would be subsidised/completely paid for if you're unemployed.