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S.T.A.G.E. on 01 August 2009
Dodece said:
I am confuses as to how the 360 even made its way into this thread. Talk about having a inferiority complex searching for expression. What Microsoft does with their console has no relevance to what Sony has done with theirs. Stop playing the blame game, and passing the buck. This discussion has to deal with with the PS3s storage issues. Not with the issues that may, or may not exist on other consoles. Be they past or present.

A lot of you show the weakness of your argument when you play the blame game. A lot of you are playing the old plea bargain tattle to the hilt. You know what I am talking about. When you get caught doing something bad, and instead of just owning up you raise the stakes. Gambling that you can get off by offering someone else up to the slaughter. It is the hallmark of a true asshole. Dragging everyone else down with you.

This is all about Sony. Stop pointing fingers at Microsoft or Nintendo trying to convince everyone that they did something much worse. Stop being rat bastards.

Actually, Sony and Microsofts choices this gen with storing is one in the same. The way they went about it was totally different though. There is no inferiority complex. There is a smart way for a company and there is a stupid way. There are capitalizing possibilities for people at the expense of the  brand of choice and there is understanding that support of a company can bring rewards. They both to bring large capacity HDD's into this gaming war. You know just as well as I do that Sony needs all the extra profit they can get.



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Nizut76 on 01 August 2009

i started the back up utility went to the store came home with a 300gb HDD and within a few minutes was up and running again. So my 60gb is now a 300gb and i havent had any storage worries. its almost as easy as changing a memory card.



Squilliam on 01 August 2009
Pristine20 said:
Squilliam said:
Not wanting to do something is 'okay' by me. My PS3 failed twice, I personally had no trouble whacking the HDD out and then back again and if he doesn't want to do something then he does have a right to raise it as an issue. These forums are built in a large part by people not liking things, if everyone liked everything the same then there would be nothing to discuss.

Not wanting to do something is ok by me as well. However, not wanting to do something and complaing about not getting the end product of that process is NOT ok by me.

Think abot this: back in the ps1 and ps2 era, storage was based on memory cards, space filled up really quickly with games like vagrant story using up 3 blocks out of 15 on ps1 and games like Drakan:the ancient gates using up 1.5mb out of 8 mb on the ps2. Space issues have always been a part of gaming but everyone just went out and bought new memory cards without complaining.

With that said, the TC's issue here is that he seems to expect that space would just be solved by default out of the box when the reality is that such an issue can't be solved and really depends on the user. My own ps3 (currently broken) has stuff on it approaching 140gb. This is partly because I had every demo on ps3 downloaded and a couple of movies on it as well. Do I have a right to blame sony that my original 60gb of space wasn't enough? There are legit "epic fails" from sony, this just isn't one of them IMO. My ps3 and yours (as it seems) breaking for the 2nd time would be legit "epic fails" not having to upgrade to a new HDD.

With the TC wanting to somehow have enough space for all he wants to do right out of the box, I don't think the 360 would have solved the problem for him (and especially not the wii where there is currently no solution) either because he never compalined about the process of swapping hdds, he only complained about not having enough space out the box.

It's all fair that the forum is about opinions but I don't believe in slamming others when the fault lies with yourself...just not right.

 

Buying another memory card was easy though, and you had two memory card slots. The PS3 solution of opening up the drive, taking out 5 screws is something entirely different to just having a memory card. To some people it doesn't matter if it costs a lot (Xbox 360 HDD, PS2 memory card) so long as its easy and straightforward. I think thats a valid perspective to have. To them doing something cheaper isn't better than doing something easily.

The difference between the Xbox 360 and the PS3 is that if you run out of space on the former you can't download anything and with the latter you can't play some games without uninstalling something. 40GB is a space limitation, 28GB useable? Isn't much when there are 5GB compulsary installs and DLC weighing in at a couple of gigs floating around.

It may not have been his fault, remember how at one point there was only a 40GB SKU in some places, if that minimum is unacceptably small then thats unfortunate and may not easily be averted.



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Username2324 on 01 August 2009

I think you should appreciate that you have a harddrive, think of all the Wii and 360 owners with only 256MB of storage....



WereKitten on 02 August 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:


You're not reading properly are you? Their intention was not to give you savings. Sony doesn't like it that people buy cheaper HDD's with larger capacities when they aren't profiting off of it. You must be in some dream world to think that Sony intended for things to be this way.

Oh, come on, this makes no sense at all. Is that why they gave the end user access to the HDD caddy with a single standard screw retention mechanism? Is that why there are instructions on how to swap the HDD right in the PS3 manual?

Sony always sold SKUs with bigger HDDs at a premium - the user paying for the convenience of not having to swap it him/herself for a bigger one - but it is clearly something advanced users are encouraged to do, as it adds value to the console for them exactly like the ability to multiboot different OSs.



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Squilliam on 02 August 2009
WereKitten said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


You're not reading properly are you? Their intention was not to give you savings. Sony doesn't like it that people buy cheaper HDD's with larger capacities when they aren't profiting off of it. You must be in some dream world to think that Sony intended for things to be this way.

Oh, come on, this makes no sense at all. Is that why they gave the end user access to the HDD caddy with a single standard screw retention mechanism? Is that why there are instructions on how to swap the HDD right in the PS3 manual?

Sony always sold SKUs with bigger HDDs at a premium - the user paying for the convenience of not having to swap it him/herself for a bigger one - but it is clearly something advanced users are encouraged to do, as it adds value to the console for them exactly like the ability to multiboot different OSs.

Tutto sa che lo PS3 è fatto dalle decisioni insensate e cordicella mettere. Theres nessun uso nella difesa deuna tal organizzazione dell'idiota.



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WereKitten on 02 August 2009

^ That was nasty of you, going all babelfish on me...
Literally: "Everything knows that the PS3 is made from the baseless decisions and string putting. "Theres" no use in the defense of such organization of the idiot"

The string putting part is suggestive, but baffling...



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Squilliam on 02 August 2009
WereKitten said:

^ That was nasty of you, going all babelfish on me...
Literally: "Everything knows that the PS3 is made from the baseless decisions and string putting. "Theres" no use in the defense of such organization of the idiot"

The string putting part is suggestive, but baffling...

Penso che questo filetto abbia acceso abbastanza a lungo. Forse il relativo tempo affinchè i buoni gattini e piccoli mouse vadano e di giocare. Spiacente circa il babelfish, ho pensato appena che per voi fosse piacevole leggere l'italiano difettoso piuttosto che l'inglese difettoso per un cambiamento.

I think this thread has gone on long enough. Perhaps its time for good kittens and small mice to go and play.

Sorry about the babelfish, I just thought it would be nice for you to read bad Italian rather than bad english for a change.



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