MontanaHatchet said:
SciFiBoy said:
MontanaHatchet said:
No, I don't see a flaw. So long as a long of people practice it and it doesn't spread messages of hate or harm, there's really no problem with it. And I was giving examples of other concepts. I'd like to see you argue that religion is counter-productive, by the way. China has very few religious people in it, but it has a far more totalitarian government than a largely religious nation like the U.S. It varies. Religion is a big part of the lives of billions of people. Besides, we're straying from the original argument. And I know you'd love that to happen, because your original point sucks.
When a religion based on fairies and dragons becomes major and recognized worldwide, maybe it will be protected. Otherwise, no. I've never heard of such a movement, and I don't think it will happen any time soon.
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do not many religons preech that say homosexuality is a sin, meaning they would feel that persecuting homosexuals is ok? its why it took alot to get equal rights for them in the UK, arguably infact, they still dont get equal rights in the US. thats just 1 example for you, i have more.
problem is, i could use your argument to say that RACISM is ok, as people have done it for years and many people may still support it.
my original point? it was that we have no more proof of the beliefs of say judaism than we do of faries, how is that point stupid? or do you just think all atheists are stupid?
dragons and faries were an example to illustrate a point, but you seem to have ignored my point every time i bring it up, lol.
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No. They say homosexuality is a sin, and you can not follow the religion and be homosexual at the same time. They don't literally say "go out and pester and murder homosexuals." The messages of hate are perceived by the people following the religion, and many people choose not to act on them. By the way, you're not analyzing my points. You're just cherrypicking a couple and saying, "Ah hah, I found a flaw in his argument because I didn't read anything else!" I believe that they gain credibility as being a long standing part of society, so long as they don't preach hate for other people. And many of them don't. We have no proof that God exists, Moses exists, nor Jesus, or any other religious figure. But we do have proof that there are millions, if not billions of people who believe in these things. What proof do we have for a religion that believes in fairies and dragons?
NONE AT ALL.
Man I feel like I'm forced to run in circles for you. You are just so unable to understand something so simple, it's absolutely amazing. There's no major religion for the thing you described, so it's not going to have its beliefs protected. You also don't see Satanist rights protected. Again, it's a matter of numbers. And I don't think Atheists are stupid, because I am one myself. You just think that I can't defend religion without being some religious nut.
You ignore my points over and over. It's like arguing with a wall, and I'm frankly getting sick of it. It's no wonder you get owned in pretty much any argument you get into on these forums. Bah.
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im not ignoring your points, im pointing out there flaws and what i disagree with, i kinda thought that was the point of a debate, but hey, you keep posting insulting stuff there too, but im trying to ignore that part, as i dont want this to descend into petty bickering.
as i said, faries and dragons are an example, but you wont accept that.
isnt that the problem though, how can we give them extra rights and protections if theyre beliefs can be used to incite hatred? would you allow racism? no, but for some reason, the concept of religion is ok, and deserves to get nice things like there own schools and laws.
lots of people believing in something, dosent make it any more real or worthwhile, till about 100 years ago, people believed in the concept of slavery, its only because people stood up and said, this concept is wrong and has problems with it, that we got rid of it.
im not even going that far, im saying they dont deserve preferential treatment, im not stopping them believing, not at all, im saying, believe whatever you like, just remember that you dont get anymore rights than me for doing so, nor do you have any more right to complain about being made fun of for them, than someone who believes in something else we cant prove exists.
