Very unlikely.
Based on what?
Does anybody have any actual long term numbers vs. the numbers we have now?
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Very unlikely.
Based on what?
Does anybody have any actual long term numbers vs. the numbers we have now?
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I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to gather facts/opinions before I form one of my own.
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It's not going to be cheaper. It is going to be... more fair... seeing as there are millions of americans who cant live productive lives because of lack of insurance.
Domo-Kun:
We don't have solid numbers on what the government is projecting will be saved. We only have historical numbers. And given then incredible gap between current enrollment costs from government programs vs. prices, it's very unlikely the gap can be breached by federally funded initiatives.
We can make arguments that it will save money, but again, there's a 72% increase in cost on government programs. Statistically, it'd be nearly impossible to explain how the government could save that $3,300 between the programs. Not only this, it assumes that whatever the government does to reform the industry would not help the private companies' costs.
Wouldn't it be better to say 'Hey, the insurance companies are doing it for almost half of what we are! We could save a lot of money by having citizens sign up through them instead of us!'
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| im_sneaky said: It's not going to be cheaper. It is going to be... more fair... seeing as there are millions of americans who cant live productive lives because of lack of insurance. |
Most of whom choose not to have it.
Something needs to be done for people priced out of the system due to preexisting conditions, and something needs to be done about healthcare costs... but that's it.
Not everyone who doesn't have health insurance can't have it. Most can and simply don't want it. Few are actually priced out of health insurance... since the poor get medicare.

I don't think 'fair' is having a chain smoking, 400 pound woman paying the same insurance rates as a 30 year old healthy, non-smoking, non-drinking man.
While we're at it, to make life fair, can't we:
- Mandate every person in America be offered a job to make sure unemployment is a thing of the past
- Give a college education to every American so every American can be smarter
- Give a free house to every family (or domestic partners, or pet lovers with >4 animals) so everyone can have a place to sleep
- Mandate that food is free for every American to ensure they don't go hungry
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| mrstickball said: Domo-Kun: We don't have solid numbers on what the government is projecting will be saved. We only have historical numbers. And given then incredible gap between current enrollment costs from government programs vs. prices, it's very unlikely the gap can be breached by federally funded initiatives. We can make arguments that it will save money, but again, there's a 72% increase in cost on government programs. Statistically, it'd be nearly impossible to explain how the government could save that $3,300 between the programs. Not only this, it assumes that whatever the government does to reform the industry would not help the private companies' costs. Wouldn't it be better to say 'Hey, the insurance companies are doing it for almost half of what we are! We could save a lot of money by having citizens sign up through them instead of us!' |
No, to me, it's never better to blindly follow special interest corporations than to have actual evidence.
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Domo-Kun -
Then you should really fight to bring Communism to America, since you seem to hate businesses.
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That was a very shallow thing to say.
Because I hate the health insurance business, I'm a communist?
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| mrstickball said: I don't think 'fair' is having a chain smoking, 400 pound woman paying the same insurance rates as a 30 year old healthy, non-smoking, non-drinking man. While we're at it, to make life fair, can't we: - Mandate every person in America be offered a job to make sure unemployment is a thing of the past - Give a college education to every American so every American can be smarter - Give a free house to every family (or domestic partners, or pet lovers with >4 animals) so everyone can have a place to sleep - Mandate that food is free for every American to ensure they don't go hungry |
Don't we already do all of these things?