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dallas said:
The get royalties from the number of BD discs sold as well as having a small part of the drive fees.

Right now, it's about 30 cents per title. It might not sound like a whole lot, but MS sells over a million discs each week. So, if these numbers hold up Sony could get over 15 million in the course of a year from MS. I hope that the Wii HD would have Blu-ray as well, but that might be for the generation after next and i'll have to wait. Either way, Sony is going to get a major stream of revenue, revenue that it won't have to do much work for so the profit margin on this will be pretty big, that it didn't have before and it is getting this money from a competitor. So sony's gain is really MS's loss.

You should give a source to your info. Anyways, MS still makes more money off those disks sold so it's not a loss to MS, besides Sony is giving money to MS with other services too. There is no way Wii HD will have BD, it doesn't even play DVDs. Anyways let's keep the posts on topic

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ok, here are the prices that i have. It's 11 cents per read only disc not 30, sorry but hey if MS sells a little bit over a million games every week WW,  that's still a lot of money coming in which will give sony a bit of help that they didnt have before.... 

0.11 cents * 1,000,000 discs * 52 weeks per year = moolah coming to Sony



The source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2437

 

have a good one



Sadly I read a lot of ignorant commentary in this thread. The question isn't whether Halo will work as an anime series. A lot of you have a singular image in your minds what an anime must be. Well your wrong as a genre the only defining characteristic is that it is animated. There is no set style, nor is it relegated to a particular age group. Hell some of the most cerebral series you will see on television are anime series. Basically it as varied as live action, or western animation. Which we all know is varied. We can easily see that the likes of South Park and Mickey mouse are light years apart.

I say if all you have watched is the Shonen Jump series on Adult Swim. Do yourself a favor, and widen your perspective. Watch some of a series like Gantz, and your probably going to have your mind blown. You will suddenly see that the potential is always there for something really deep.

To me the problem isn't that it will be animated. The genre isn't the problem. The problem will be the writing, and the management. In other words will they do the series justice, and not try to make it into something it was never supposed to be. I would say if its close to the Starship Troopers Roughnecks series it will have a lot of potential. Perhaps the best thing would be six or seven episode story arcs. I don't think it will work if it is too episodic.



dallas said:

ok, here are the prices that i have. It's 11 cents per read only disc not 30, sorry but hey if MS sells a little bit over a million games every week WW,  that's still a lot of money coming in which will give sony a bit of help that they didnt have before....oh and eventually nintendo will probably have a Blu-ray based console too which can only help. 

0.11 cents * 1,000,000 discs * 52 weeks per year = moolah coming to Sony



The source: http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2437

 

have a good one


They won't sell a million BD and most will be sold on DVDs. And look at all that money coming to MS.

look, MS sells a million games per week, and if the 720 is Blu ray enabled, whch a lot of people think will happen, then it will be selling a million copies of a product that has a stipulation of giving royalties to sony. Sure, MS can go ahead and make a lot of its games dvd based, but why would it want to? The 720 will have quite a bit more horse power with its specs which will make it need more data. The best solution out there will solve that, and give consumers the benefit of watching BD movies, and most 360 buyers just don't care about the console wars. They'd love to watch a blu-ray movie and show it off to their gf, boyfriend and there are a lot of gay 360 people out there, or family. So the best choice for MS will be one that also helps out a competitor. That's my whole point, and this news about the anime going to BD is just the begining.



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dallas said:
look, MS sells a million games per week, and if the 720 is Blu ray enabled, whch a lot of people think will happen, then it will be selling a million copies of a product that has a stipulation of giving royalties to sony. Sure, MS can go ahead and make a lot of its games dvd based, but why would it want to? The 720 will have quite a bit more horse power with its specs which will make it need more data. The best solution out there will solve that, and give consumers the benefit of watching BD movies, and most 360 buyers just don't care about the console wars. They'd love to watch a blu-ray movie and show it off to their gf, boyfriend and there are a lot of gay 360 people out there, or family. So the best choice for MS will be one that also helps out a competitor. That's my whole point, and this news about the anime going to BD is just the begining.

I thought you were talking about the anime not the next console. Were still a long ways from that, so who knows what new formats there will be or if it will all be digital. There's also talk of them using HD-DVDs to help prevent piracy since there's not a lot of those burners available. It's not really worth talking about now till it happens in 2-4 years(?)

Of those 11 cents, how much reaches Sony? They are only a 1/6th or 1/8th owner of the Blu-Ray tech. So 1-2 cents isn't that much

Also, Sony has made computer parts used in Windows PC's for ages so I just don't get where you are going with this. They make DVD drives, and before that they made CD drives. They also make some of the nicer desktop and laptop models for MS's Windows platform.....

Sony and MS have always been benefiting from eachother....



In 2-4 years the Blu-ray format is only going to grow, and if MS wants to cheaply give 720 buyers the best product possible, they are going to put a BD drive in it so that people can watch Blu-ray movies. It would turn the 720 from just another console into something that people could show off b/c they have a high-def video game and movie player all in one console. The more Bd grows, the more likely that MS will want to make it part of the 720.

Btw, the cEO of samsung has recently said that we should see $99 BD players out by this christmas, and not just the $99 sale price out there now. Given that they go as cheap as $175 now, what do you think that this will do for Sony's Bluray? And like I said, the bigger BD gets, the more time the product has to mature, the more that MS will want to put it in.



nightsurge said:
Of those 11 cents, how much reaches Sony? They are only a 1/6th or 1/8th owner of the Blu-Ray tech. So 1-2 cents isn't that much

Also, Sony has made computer parts used in Windows PC's for ages so I just don't get where you are going with this. They make DVD drives, and before that they made CD drives. They also make some of the nicer desktop and laptop models for MS's Windows platform.....

Sony and MS have always been benefiting from eachother....


Sure, they probably get an 1/8 or less of the optical drive share....but they get 100%of the royalties from the sales of the discs that's why I keep bringing up the point of the disc sales.  Now, 11 cents per disc isn't going to hobble MS but it will be noticed, and it will be enough to help Sony.



dallas said:
In 2-4 years the Blu-ray format is only going to grow, and if MS wants to cheaply give 720 buyers the best product possible, they are going to put a BD drive in it so that people can watch Blu-ray movies. It would turn the 720 from just another console into something that people could show off b/c they have a high-def video game and movie player all in one console. The more Bd grows, the more likely that MS will want to make it part of the 720.

Btw, the cEO of samsung has recently said that we should see $99 BD players out by this christmas, and not just the $99 sale price out there now. Given that they go as cheap as $175 now, what do you think that this will do for Sony's Bluray? And like I said, the bigger BD gets, the more time the product has to mature, the more that MS will want to put it in.

I'm sorry, have you been into xbox live before?  have you heard about netflix? how about silverlight hd streaming capabilities in the future?

Onto topic,  I hope this small episodes push Halo brand in asia a tad more.