True, the Swedish government are more responsible these days, but we used to be one of the worst nations in Europe when it comes to chronical budget deficit. But I think it's almost a decade now that we've hade a state budget 'profit' (lol, whats the real word?), eccept now that the Crysis hit everyone.

I have no idea what the US is doing though. I mean, they had record long growth period in the 90's-00's until the Crysis, but yet they always kept having a big deficit. And now look what happens in a huge Crysis. They're leeching so much on future generations lol.

Also no tax deductions.

There should be none.

No deductions = no loopholes.

This is exactly where everyone else is going. At what point do you get fed up with working to feed someone else?

I dunno. It depends of course what the gov does with the tax money. In Sweden they waste so much on useless stuff like rehabilitation of criminals and a thousand other costly things.

50% is a psychological limit, it's really sickening that over half of what I produce i am forced to give away to others, to people I dont even know.

(if u include the hidden taxes an average worker pays more than 50% in taxes in Sweden, a high income worker like myself pays ~60%)

Like Mafoo is saying, it's my time that is being stolen! Work work work 8 hours a day (over 10 hours if u include lunch break and transportation), do you think I am doing it voluntarily?

Im fu***ing wasting my life and getting robbed!! As a doctor in Sweden I make just a measily $54,000 a year (before taxes) after almost 10 years of experience at this work, 6 years of med school and $75,000 in student loans.

And then this myth, everyone I meet out there believes I'm wealthy because Im a doctor.

My closest relatives were unfortunate in life, so they're pretty much living off of wellfare ($800-$1000/month) and it feels so wrong that I can't afford to help them because the state is robbing $3500 off of me every month and giving it to others. $3500 worth of services that I produce by treating and helping 20 patients every day.

Instead of giving some of it to people I love I am forced to give it to leeches. Meanwhile my family gets to see the angry and irritated part of me because Im tired after work. It's so wrong.

Really? Is this the idealogy of the right? "Me, me, me?" You even emphasized this my bolding "my time," as if somehow your time were holy and special. Anyone who values their time so highly would never spent a second of it playing videogames, since that is, in the end, a waste of time. Look, my tax dollars go towards building and repairing roads that I'll never use, and giving services to people that I'll never meet. And I'm happy to do this, because I know that other people are doing the same for me. You're not being robbed, stop being so sensationalist. The people who get services like welfare aren't leeches. If you were put in the same situation, or you lost your job and you needed assistance, should people just forget about you and think of you as a leech?

It's a selfish attitude, and I don't like it.

I am for all those things you listed, but it's about the proportions. The proportions are perverse here, where over half of what I produce by my sweat and tears is given away to very costly projects. The taxes are so high because government spends them on so many useless costly projects, beyond the basic stuff that everyone is for (Im for buidlings roads, providing cheap health care, giving well fare and stuff).

You don't even read what I wrote.

I did read your post, although I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. You could always immigrate if you don't like the policies of your country.

I guess it's like usual then, that u can't discuss the amount of taxes with a liberal/socialist minded. They will always assume that the level set by a government can't be too high, not even abroad.

Kinda the same when discussing immigration, a typical liberal will never admit that the level of immigration is too high anywhere.

A few thoughts by myself:

1. A flat tax system wouldn't bring in less revenue, it would bring in more. You see, the thing about taxation in America is that no one actually pays what they are supposed to. A rich person does not pay 40% of his taxes. He pays 40% less what he can cheat out of the government via accounting, record as a loss (which is easier when your rich), and get back in tax credits. The poor do this as well with tax credits. After all, my poor friends still get back thousands of USD come tax time because they 'paid too much into the system'. A flat tax system should, if implemented right, remove loopholes from the rich, ensuring they do pay in what's required. We always call out the wealthy for having 99% of wealth in America. Under a flat tax system, they pay that 99% out. I think that's fair.
2. We still need some sort of progression under a flat tax system, because some poor would still be hurt via a regressive cost of living. I believe the way to do this is incorporate a negative income tax plus flat tax system as proposed by Milt Friedman, one of the greatest free market economists in our history. Under a NIT, each family would start off with a tax burden of -$10,000 per year. Under a 30% flat tax, a person would need to make $39,000 per year to 'pay back' the taxes. Anything more, and you get taxed normally. Anything less, and you get it back. No real need to burden the IRS with needless paperwork.
3. It would help the government budget better. The problem that we see is that no matter what, tax revenue never seems to be proportionate to any sort of solid metric - income, GDP, ect. With a flat tax, we can tie taxation into such a system, thereby forcing the govenment to budget better, or raise taxes on everyone. Not just the poor or rich.
4. A flat tax does benefit the poor. As stated, with a negative income tax, the rich that actually pay taxes now would be less burdened, while the evaders pay more. This benefits us all.

I agree with those that are saying that flat tax burdens the poor because....It does. Currently, the poor are allowed 5,000 loopholes from child credits to work credits, to god-knows-whatelse credit which allow the worst offenders to get thousands of dollars back for bad and stupid behavior. We need to eliminate that, and give them a very simple exemption: Work, and you get $10,000 a year, less the 30% tax rate. I think such a thing as the NIT would allow for the least progression. I believe that everyone does have a civil duty to pay taxes: poor and rich alike, so such a thing as an NIT allows the poor to participate in taxation, and for their voices to be heard, as an increase in tax rates would effect them just as much.

Going back to the rich: The fact of the matter is (again), they don't actually pay 35% or 40%. They get many exemptions. If you take away their exemptions, but offer a slightly lower tax rate, you will tax them more, but do it in a much more evenhanded manner.