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And: 3 minute delay is awful? As if the game is that high-paced with all the acting like they got hit by shrapnel. Or the 'fights' that occur because of disputable decisions.

The 3 minutes added time during brasils match today was absolutely ridiculous btw.



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Gnizmo said:
woopdeedoo said:


Do it like the guys in the NFL. If there's a close call, or some rather obvious mistake by the referee the team manager/trainer can challenge it - If it's clear that the ref was wrong the challenge goes through, if not you lose the chance to put a player in.

And stop the game for like 3 minutes. Fuck that. There are no time outs in soccer, and there shouldn't be. Challenges implemented after the game for tournaments are fine in my book, but nothing that would make the game as boring as other sports. This coming from a fan of USA who was robbed of a win just over a day ago.

@Lordflashheart
How could they possibly implement it without stopping play? The referee has to watch the tape, and that means play can't resume.  Soccer is a game of little or no downtime. Anything that takes away from that has no place in the game.

Just very quickly of the top of my head it could be introduced slowly. So if it's a corner and the refs not sure if there was shirt pulling and if the guy was on side he could have the ref check if it was a goal or not. Would have come in handy a few days ago.

If there's a hand ball that leads to a goal the refs given the video ref could inform the ref on the pitch or the ref can go  for confirmation. Football is stop and start with all the diving so as long as the video refs not too intrusive and doesn't hold up play for too long it might not ruin the game.

There needs to be very clear rules what it can and can't be used for. I don't think Football should use the ref for too much. Like you say there's not too much downtime but in this world cup there has been. Personally i would like it used to stamp out all this falling to the ground feigning injury.



weaveworld said:

And: 3 minute delay is awful? As if the game is that high-paced with all the acting like they got hit by shrapnel. Or the 'fights' that occur because of disputable decisions.

The 3 minutes added time during brasils match today was absolutely ridiculous btw.

Yes it is. A one minute delay is too long. It is part of the game. Sometimes it means bad calls one way or the other. I like that you can get away with murder so long as the ref doesn't see it. Yeah, it leads to bad calls. Yeah, it can really screw-up sometimes. Yet it adds something to the game at the same time. You get to see how much you can get away with before the ref calls it. Cheating the rules just enough to get the competitive edge requires a great deal of skill. It is a standard part of the game that shouldn't be altered.



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Lord Flashheart said:

Just very quickly of the top of my head it could be introduced slowly. So if it's a corner and the refs not sure if there was shirt pulling and if the guy was on side he could have the ref check if it was a goal or not. Would have come in handy a few days ago.

If there's a hand ball that leads to a goal the refs given the video ref could inform the ref on the pitch or the ref can go  for confirmation. Football is stop and start with all the diving so as long as the video refs not too intrusive and doesn't hold up play for too long it might not ruin the game.

There needs to be very clear rules what it can and can't be used for. I don't think Football should use the ref for too much. Like you say there's not too much downtime but in this world cup there has been. Personally i would like it used to stamp out all this falling to the ground feigning injury.


As would I honestly. One of my friends suggested they force players who roll on the ground for so long off the field for a while. This way they could properly "recover" from their injury. It would help cut down on a lot of flopping.



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Good idea.



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Lord Flashheart said:
Gnizmo said:
dobby985 said:

We need video referees. Every other sport has them.


It would straight up ruin the game. Soccer is about having play that flows well. Instant replay ruins that. Hell it slows down games like baseball and they are already slow as hell. Video referees are shit. It is part of the game.

It hasn't slowed down Rugby League in fact it can add to the tension. But it all comes down to how its implimented.

Rugby League is a prime example of how video replays should work. The decision takes 30 seconds max and it does add to the tension.





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Gnizmo said:
weaveworld said:

And: 3 minute delay is awful? As if the game is that high-paced with all the acting like they got hit by shrapnel. Or the 'fights' that occur because of disputable decisions.

The 3 minutes added time during brasils match today was absolutely ridiculous btw.

Yes it is. A one minute delay is too long. It is part of the game. Sometimes it means bad calls one way or the other. I like that you can get away with murder so long as the ref doesn't see it. Yeah, it leads to bad calls. Yeah, it can really screw-up sometimes. Yet it adds something to the game at the same time. You get to see how much you can get away with before the ref calls it. Cheating the rules just enough to get the competitive edge requires a great deal of skill. It is a standard part of the game that shouldn't be altered.


So you sir, say it's ok to headbutt an opponent as long as the ref doesn't see it. Maybe you're in the wrong thread talking about the wrong sport. And a 'challenge' wouldn't last more than 30 seconds, thats even shorter than the time needed to take a corner. I like the game clean, it's not a full contact sport and the less dirty playing, the faster the game and the LESS time is delayed!!! So there's your solution for the delays, no more cheating because you get caught



So the Ivory Coast player got Kaka sent off, meaning he's banned for Brazil's next game, meaning Portugal will have an easier time of it, meaning Ivory Coast are less likely to qualify. It really is the split-second decision making of the modern footballer that sets them apart from the rest of us.



Wow. Good for portugal, they scored some great goals. Korea threw the towel in but still, that was a ruthless display of attacking football. That's the Ivory Coast effectively eliminated, another one of the African big-hitters gone.