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It's so damn frustrating t osee a fking 220 pound man like Drogba rolling around on the fucking ground every time he gets touched. Thats why I hate Chelsea, Ashley Cole, Drogba Anelka an Ballack are all pricks.

But they can show theworld what happens when you lock down Gerrard and Torres.



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kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

off yesterdays peformance Utd wont be in the race....

Utd have squad issues if you ask me.

all top teams have there off days, we tend to scrape results out of games better than other teams though, we also have the best manager in the world, so im pretty confident



kowenicki said:
ferdinand and owen are going to miss games this year... could be crucial and nani is utter gash... valenica is worse.

the squad needs to be strengthened.

injury wise, you may have a point, time will tell, im sure if we need to sign players in January, Ferguson will do so

Nani is erratic, can be good, can be dire
Valencia still very much adjusting to United
Ferdinand should be back soon and hopefully without anymore injury worries
Owen is only out for a couple of weeks



kowenicki is right. Even if Utd sign quality players in January teh ywill be cup tied and disqualified from Europe maybe even the FA Cup.

At the moment we need brand new, fresh and confident keeper (Akinfeev) a new right back, maybe a center back and a new striker... Send Nani and Foster on loan somewhere. We should done more to convince Ribery or get Snieder or Robben as part of the Ronaldo deal. I think I said that a few weeks ago..

We can also use Hargreaves as a right winger when he comes back. Thank God because Valencia/Nani are terrible. My predictions about them this season were deadwrong.



i still think you people underestimate United, but anyway, full time score was Chelsea 2-0 Liverpool



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kowenicki said:
@scifi

not underestimating at all... just looking at the squad depth and realising its the shallowest at UTD for some time.

hmm, I dont agree, I think some players are just injured or on bad form, like I said, were still getting results, thats what matters



kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

name me the first 11 in your eyes and their cover then...

sure

GK: Van Der Sar (when fit) or Foster
DR: O'Shea or Brown
DC: Vidic
DC: Ferdinand or Evans
MR: Valencia or Nani (Obertan when he is back from injury looks good too)
MC: Carrick or Fletcher or Giggs
MC: Scholes or Anderson
ML: Nani or Park
FC: Rooney
FC: Berbatov or Owen (also, Macheda and Wellbeck coming through)

only big concern right now, Is when Vidic is injured/banned, he is our best defender

minor concern at the moment (could be bigger if form dips): Wings, Nani and Valencia both need to improve, if they dont, in January we should look at options



2:0 was not a fair result at all. It was even for most of the game except when Liverpool were dominated the first 20ish mins.

Liverpool need another striker, also i don't see the logic in playing 2 defensive midfielders every week. Against teams that arn't the big 6 its completly pointless. Might aswell get a new striker replace Lucas with him and have the extra striker.

Also what is with Liverpool's defending? Not really applies as much to the game vs Chelsea, but against Burnley and Bolton they had all 11 players back for corners and free kicks. What is with that? Its not needed at all. Putting a striker on the half way line forces 3 players at least to sit back hence lifting the pressure off the defence. And zonal marking does not work, i had a bad feeling every time chelsea got a corner that they were going to win it. Insua isn't at Liverpool quality yet and things need shaking up.

As it stands now, Liverpool will be 4th or 5th.

Realistically its only going to be MANUTD Arsenal Chelsea MANCITY or Tottenham, Everton and Aston Villa i don't believe have anywhere near the quality of Liverpool.



Also yes, Nani and Valencia are poor players. Waste of 17 million if you ask me for Valencia.



Benitez needs to pull Carragher aside and tell him to improve or be benched. He is really terrible this season. Glen Johnson should also improve his defending. Also, I don;t understand why he still plays Lucas over Benayoun. When ever he comes on he sets the tone for the game and the whole plays better... Babel on the otehr hand just runs into defenders.