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It's really sad that A.Wake is not coming to the PC, it looked like a great game and the type that would be easier and more fluid played using a mouse.

As for sales, it seems there are quite a few games that are better sold on the PC, for example
The Orange Box, one of the best set of games of all time - http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/36952/The-Orange-Box-1-5-Million-Console-Sales-Significantly-More-On-PC



Bioshock was always going to do badly on the PC due to the DRM software EA installs on the computer - it was well known and there was comments about it all over amazons site at the time.

Saying that setting up a PC game is hard. is just Sad. *shakes head*

It is hard for us to find solid numbers for PC sales but it's incorrect to say that they are going down in the long term. It is clear however that Microsoft is doing this to give a boost to Xbox 360 sales as the game developers would love to do a PC version and it would just give them extra money if they did it.
People who Pirate PC games can easily chip and pirate Xbox360 games.



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@CGI-Quality
Answering another question: I would be upset.... Uncharted and Heavy Rain is enough for me. And yeah, I agree with you, it's unfair.



Mummelmann said:
bardicverse said:
^^^ ok, Im curious. What are you going to do with the rubber duck?

Isn't "a rubber" basically a condom? Why would he need one?

OH MY GOD! RUN SHIO, RUN!

LMAO!!!!



Venji said:

People who Pirate PC games can easily chip and pirate Xbox360 games.

You don't chip the 360, you flash it.....



FKNetwork said:
Venji said:

People who Pirate PC games can easily chip and pirate Xbox360 games.

You don't chip the 360, you flash it.....

Thanks for the info, I'm not an expert in this field



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JaggedSac said:
shio said:
tyig said:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2009/02/340x_acticonsoles.jpg

 

Come on, the worst console for activision(ps3) is 2.5 times the revenue of the PC nom-mmorpg games, if it's not mmorpg it really is DEAD.No point putting this game on pc

I'm pretty sure any sales from WoW on retail is included on "MMORPG section", and any Digital sale from a PC game is included on "Distribution section" (which is what EA does too). so this shows nothing of how it really is.

Our distribution business consists of operations in Europe that provide warehousing, logistical, and sales distribution services to third-party publishers of interactive entertainment software, our own publishing operations, and manufacturers of interactive entertainment hardware.

the sales could still be counted, since having PC games available on DD services is still considered distribution. Either way, the digital sales could also be counted on the MMORPG section:

"

   Revenue Recognition.     We recognize revenue from the sale of our products upon the transfer of title and risk of loss to our customers, and once any performance obligations have been completed. Certain products are sold to customers with a street date (the earliest date these products may be sold by retailers). For these products we recognize revenue on the later of the street date or the sale date. Revenue from product sales is recognized after deducting the estimated allowance for returns and price protection.

        Some of our software products provide limited online features at no additional cost to the consumer. Generally, we consider such features to be incidental to the overall product offering and an inconsequential deliverable. Accordingly, we recognize revenue related to products containing these limited online features upon the transfer of title and risk of loss to our customer. In instances where online features or additional functionality is considered more than an inconsequential separate deliverable in addition to the software product, we take this into account when applying our revenue recognition policy. This evaluation is performed for each software product together with any online transactions, such as electronic downloads of titles with product add-ons when it is released.

        In instances where the online service is considered more than an inconsequential separate deliverable in addition to the software product, we account for the sale as a "bundled" sale, or multiple element arrangement, in which we sell both the software product and the online service for one combined price. Vendor specific objective evidence for the fair value of the online service does not exist as we do not separately offer or charge for the online service. Therefore, when the online service is determined to be more than an inconsequential deliverable, we recognize the revenue from sales of such software products ratably over the estimated online service period, beginning the month after shipment of the software product. Costs of sales (excluding intangible asset amortization classified as costs of sales) related to such products are also deferred and recognized with the related revenues, including manufacturing costs, software royalties and amortization and intellectual property licenses.

        We consider the World of Warcraft boxed product including expansion packs and other ancillary revenues as a single deliverable with the total arrangement consideration combined and recognized ratably as revenue over the estimated product life beginning upon activation of the software and delivery of the services. Revenues attributed to the sale of World of Warcraft boxed software and related expansion packs are classified as product sales and revenues attributable to subscription and other ancillary services are classified as subscription, licensing and other revenues.

        Determining whether the online service for a particular game constitutes more than an inconsequential deliverable is subjective and requires management's judgment. Determining the estimated service period over which to recognize the related revenue and costs of sales is also subjective and involves management's judgment."

http://investor.activision.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1047469-09-2015

 

JaggedSac said:
shio said:

They haven't. Activision itself said that the numbers they reported were only from 5/6 markets, most of them console-centric. They didn't include numbers from portugal, sweden, norway, finland, iceland, russia, ukraine, poland, and other dozens of countries, and no doubt they didn't even mention the digital sales.

for example, when they reported COD4 sold 7 millions it only encompassed North America, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Benelux. Only France, Germany and Benelux are PC-centric, but they can't even compare to North-America (USA+Canada), UK, Italy and Spain. This means they left out dozens of PC-centric countries and digital sales.

Neither of the links I provided stated that they only included games in those countries.

What links? If you're talking about when Activision announced COD4 sold 10 and 13 millions, that doesn't mean they didn't count only the same markets as when they reported the 7 million figure. Infact, they initially even reported the 7 millions as "Worldwide sales":

"While Activision claims to have sold 7 million worldwide, the publisher later clarified its statement, saying that its figure only encompasses North America, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Benelux. No Asian countries were included in the tally. However, the oversight isn't likely to cost COD4 the 2007 software crown, as the PS3 and 360 versions of the game have been one of the few non-Nintendo platform titles to crack the Japanese top-30 sales charts on a consistent basis."

DirtyP2002 said:
shio said:

They haven't. Activision itself said that the numbers they reported were only from 5/6 markets, most of them console-centric. They didn't include numbers from portugal, sweden, norway, finland, iceland, russia, ukraine, poland, and other dozens of countries, and no doubt they didn't even mention the digital sales.

for example, when they reported COD4 sold 7 millions it only encompassed North America, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and Benelux. Only France, Germany and Benelux are PC-centric, but they can't even compare to North-America (USA+Canada), UK, Italy and Spain. This means they left out dozens of PC-centric countries and digital sales.


So the sales of CoD4 in

  • NA
  • UK
  • France
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Spain
  • Benelux

were about 1 million combined. Just tell me HOW ON EARTH is it possible for Scandinavia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Australia etc to sell like 5-6 million (The PC sales must be higher than 6 million copies sold on consoles).

You have NO point, no source and are just talking bullshit.

Man, just check the revenue reported by Activision in 08! This includes EVERYTHING in every country. The revenue was like 1/7 of the Xbox360 revenue. So how could the PC version outsell the Xbox360 version? NOT POSSIBLE!

1 millions what? We are talking about only 7 markets (no Russia, eastern countries, scandinavian countries, etc...), with no PC digital sales (and by now the digital distribution market should be above the retail market) and no opportunity to show the well-known "PC leeeeeeegs" that PC games have, an example: Starcraft 1 sold 1.5 millions in it's first year, and is now above 11 millions.

Here's an awesome idea: Let's see how much COD4 sold on Xbox 360 and PS3 until December 31, 2007 in the markets below:

  • North-America (USA + Canada)
  • UK
  • France
  • Germany
  • Italy
  • Spain
  • Benelux (Belgium + Netherlands + Luxembourg)

Add them all up, then subtract it from the 7 millions. If COD4 PC is above 1 million, then it's a huge success for PC.



Give it a rest Shio seriously, no one cares what you have to say, go back to your super amazing best thing in the whole wide world pc gaming and leave us to our crumby console gaming.

Shio = The new MikeB for PC confirmed.....



meh.
that game is dead to me.



I think it will come later, as a steam exclusive. Microsoft throws valve some steam exclusives, and they continue to be motivated to hate developing for the ps3



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