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SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
Sqrl said:
Slimebeast said:
All popular drugs should certainly be legal (meth, heroine, marijuana etc), except perhaps the super-deadly drugs, but there's no market for them anyways.

This is, in my opinion, the only real issue with legalization.  Where to draw the line on what is/isn't legal and deciding what criteria should be used in considering the legal status of a substance.


Yeah, so it should be possible to solve.

But it don't matter if it can be done. It wont be legalized because there's such a huge interest from many actors to keep the drug business illegal, and all these actors (police, lawyers, politicians, druglords, social workers, rehab institutions, custom control etc) will oppose legalization. :/

Wouldn't the police benefit from not having to spend so many resources on tackling drugs? Rehab centers would certainly do better business (particularly under my model), and my mum works in the social-working arena, and has been on many drug training programs, etc - the social care people are a lot more liberal about drug use than most (because they know the actual facts).

Or they want to drive up demand for their services!



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Heh, they're overworked as it is, completely under resourced, and they never receive the credit that they deserve.

Social workers change thousands of peoples lives for the better every week, and it goes unnoticed by everyone, they make one mistake, and the world goes ballistic at them, when most of the time it's down to a lack of funding.

But, hey, let's not go off-topic.

Hang on, what was topic?



SamuelRSmith said:
Heh, they're overworked as it is, completely under resourced, and they never receive the credit that they deserve.

Social workers change thousands of peoples lives for the better every week, and it goes unnoticed by everyone, they make one mistake, and the world goes ballistic at them, when most of the time it's down to a lack of funding.

But, hey, let's not go off-topic.

Hang on, what was topic?

Haha I know.  Was just joking.

I mean it's a job you need two college degrees for pays like crap and requires something like 10 free weeks of work as part of certification.

Or at least those are The US guidelines



Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Heh, they're overworked as it is, completely under resourced, and they never receive the credit that they deserve.

Social workers change thousands of peoples lives for the better every week, and it goes unnoticed by everyone, they make one mistake, and the world goes ballistic at them, when most of the time it's down to a lack of funding.

But, hey, let's not go off-topic.

Hang on, what was topic?

Haha I know.  Was just joking.

I mean it's a job you need two college degrees for pays like crap and requires something like 10 free weeks of work as part of certification.

Or at least those are The US guidelines

two degrees?

i dont think you need that here, but i may be wrong, still two degree's for any career must be hard work, credit to thoose who do it.



Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Heh, they're overworked as it is, completely under resourced, and they never receive the credit that they deserve.

Social workers change thousands of peoples lives for the better every week, and it goes unnoticed by everyone, they make one mistake, and the world goes ballistic at them, when most of the time it's down to a lack of funding.

But, hey, let's not go off-topic.

Hang on, what was topic?

Haha I know.  Was just joking.

I mean it's a job you need two college degrees for pays like crap and requires something like 10 free weeks of work as part of certification.

Or at least those are The US guidelines

Well, my mum got into it by starting off as a worker at a Youth Club, and moving her way through that sector over the years.

She's not a social worker per se, social workers work as a part of a team called TASCC (Team Around the School, Child and Community) - a TASCC team is comprised of  social workers, home-liaison officers, educational welfare officers (which my mum is), and with high up staff in several local schools.

We actually have a huge lack of social workers in the area due to the fact that it's a really hard job, you're under appreciated, and underpaid. It's not just hard work in terms of long hours, but it can be emotionally quite difficult, as well.

Hell, my mum's been threatened enough times by parents and she just tries to get kids into schools, god knows how difficult it must be for social workers when they've got to do the work that they have to do.



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SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Heh, they're overworked as it is, completely under resourced, and they never receive the credit that they deserve.

Social workers change thousands of peoples lives for the better every week, and it goes unnoticed by everyone, they make one mistake, and the world goes ballistic at them, when most of the time it's down to a lack of funding.

But, hey, let's not go off-topic.

Hang on, what was topic?

Haha I know.  Was just joking.

I mean it's a job you need two college degrees for pays like crap and requires something like 10 free weeks of work as part of certification.

Or at least those are The US guidelines

two degrees?

i dont think you need that here, but i may be wrong, still two degree's for any career must be hard work, credit to thoose who do it.

Well by that i mean a Bachelors degree and then a Masters degree.

Hell my girlfriend is about to get her second degree and is about to get her third just to be a teacher.



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SamuelRSmith said:
Slimebeast said:
Sqrl said:
Slimebeast said:
All popular drugs should certainly be legal (meth, heroine, marijuana etc), except perhaps the super-deadly drugs, but there's no market for them anyways.

This is, in my opinion, the only real issue with legalization.  Where to draw the line on what is/isn't legal and deciding what criteria should be used in considering the legal status of a substance.


Yeah, so it should be possible to solve.

But it don't matter if it can be done. It wont be legalized because there's such a huge interest from many actors to keep the drug business illegal, and all these actors (police, lawyers, politicians, druglords, social workers, rehab institutions, custom control etc) will oppose legalization. :/

Wouldn't the police benefit from not having to spend so many resources on tackling drugs? Rehab centers would certainly do better business (particularly under my model), and my mum works in the social-working arena, and has been on many drug training programs, etc - the social care people are a lot more liberal about drug use than most (because they know the actual facts).


Yes, in some countries it could work well to downsize drug hunting, there would be a motivation to do it where there is a shortage of policemen already, but in a country like the USA you got so many specialized cops in narcotics with a powerful hierarchy, and they collaborate with attorneys and lawyers and stuff. It's a high-status profession to be a narc. So they won't be interested in legalizing, oh no. They would lobby so hard against is. (this is just one example of many groups that have a big economical interest in keeping drugs illegal and who earn their living from this business)

Legalizing drugs in the US is just a dream way in the future. In Europe it's happening though, but slowly. At least there's a discussion. We can expect marijuana to become legal in most Western Europe, if inhaled under controlled conditions (like Dutch coffee shops), within two decades or so. And u already have these safe haven huts where dope addicts get shelter and fresh needles and basic surveillance to reduce the risk of OD, and cops won't arrest them if they stay there.

But heavy drugs becoming legal - as in buying/selling legally and allowed to use in bars and at home, thats utopia.

 



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