@bdbd - it's like giving birth to a rhino through my peehole. Lack of reliable environmental artists/level builders causing a lot of grief. Going to have to outsource level design in order to keep a reasonable deadline. Right now, we're estimating Summer 2010 release, God willing.

@Bardicverse: I'm keeping my thumbs up for you. Let's hope you don't run into any more problems.

@bdbd - Thanks Yeah, the fortunate side of it all is, I'm too stubborn and stupid to ever quit. Fortunately, my lead programmer is the same way. Between the both of us, this game will happen through any means necessary!

The term is true, about "breaking into" the market. Those are some thick walls, but I got the wrecking ball rented out.

@Bardicverse: I guess it feels like banging your head against a brick wall, until the wall breaks. And that's actually the only known way to start a business.

How many people you have working on the project?

@bdbd - well then at least I'm on the right track

We have a total of 10 people, including a concept artist who's not currently active and our PR person. Active people, we have 6.

Can we quit using audiosurf as the gold standard for indie games?

The concept is neat, but the game got very old, very fast. I'd rather play any of the games that CaptDS9E listed, especially Castle Crashers.

There is Community games for Indie developers...

As for Live Arcade I would prefer to see more quality over quanitity.

I think the reason good indie developers dont produce games for the 360 is because Microsoft's community system is crap. I can't verify this but it is the only reason for this. There are hundreds of great indie games released on the PC each year. What is released on steam can very well show this. So why is it that there is only a handful of decent indie games in that section? because either getting their games onto the system is a major pain in the ars or third parties are cock-blocking them from stealing their money.

The people here who keep stating that most indie games released are "garbage" is wrong. You have to realize that most game developers in all the major companies were indie developers. So while newer indie developed games do suck, the more practice they get the better their next game will be. Even the worst of games might have interesting new ideas that would bring something new to each genre.