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Aj_habfan on 16 July 2009
Alasted said:
You might as well steal cars if you buy used.

At my A-1 Auto Lot they have a big sign outside "SAVE MONEY - BUY USED"

Sickening.

Exactly. Not many people have the balls for that though :P



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Aj_habfan on 16 July 2009
Ajax said:
''Am I now a bad person because someone was living in my house before me?'' And buying a pre-owned car is like stealing a car right..

Well if you stole the car, the dealer would be at a loss.

If you pirate a game, nothing is lost - only your potential sale of a used copy, which would have only benefitted Gamestop anyway.



TWRoO on 16 July 2009
Aj_habfan said:
ironman said:
Aj_habfan said:
ironman said:
wow...so much fail in so few posts. Used games are a good thing, people part with their games for money, they then use the money, to buy new games.

Then people that want to buy new games come to the store, and see the cheaper used version, and buy that.

It does much more harm then good, and developers will be the first to tell you that.

 


Not so, If you want a game whn it first comes out, you buy itm then you play it, either you get tired of it, or find out it isn't all that great, either way, you sell it. you use the money to buy the next big game that comes out. you couldn;t do that if nobody bought used games. 

I know. But if people couldn't buy used games, many would be forced to buy new games, and that would easily make up for the people like you.

It's about a balance.

Perhaps GameStop is exploiting the used market, I don't know as I have never been in a GameStop.... but selling your purchases, and someone else buying them is not devil's work. It provides a viable way into gaming for those of us without £40/$50/60 being spent for something that might take less than 10 hours and have no replay value.

Developers and publishers on HD systems are focussing more and more money on things that don't provide long lasting entertainment, but rather a cheap thrill.
On the Wii it is the opposite, and they are hardly putting any money in to a game that when completed is barely worth £10, never mind £40



Ajax on 16 July 2009
Aj_habfan said:
Alasted said:
You might as well steal cars if you buy used.

At my A-1 Auto Lot they have a big sign outside "SAVE MONEY - BUY USED"

Sickening.

Exactly. Not many people have the balls for that though :P


I can't remember the last time I have heard anything as stupid as this.

 



''Hadouken!''

vitoxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 16 July 2009

i really dont care about the developers, if i can find a game i want in good condition ill buy it used.



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TWRoO on 16 July 2009
Aj_habfan said:
Ajax said:
''Am I now a bad person because someone was living in my house before me?'' And buying a pre-owned car is like stealing a car right..

Well if you stole the car, the dealer would be at a loss.

If you pirate a game, nothing is lost - only your potential sale of a used copy, which would have only benefitted Gamestop anyway.

Erm.... surely GameStop IS the dealer.

New car gets bought for $20k
1 year later owner sells it to dealer for $10k
Dealer sells it as a used car for $12k


New game gets bought for $50
4 months later owner sells it to GameStop for $15
GameStop sells it used for $20

----

Surely you see the connection.... now as I said, I don't know GameStop... perhaps they abuse the system.... but why not buy used from a different store if you feel their practices are not moral. If there aren't any other used game stores then that might be America's problem, GameStop has a used monopoly.



Aj_habfan on 16 July 2009
TWRoO said:
Aj_habfan said:
ironman said:
Aj_habfan said:
ironman said:
wow...so much fail in so few posts. Used games are a good thing, people part with their games for money, they then use the money, to buy new games.

Then people that want to buy new games come to the store, and see the cheaper used version, and buy that.

It does much more harm then good, and developers will be the first to tell you that.

 


Not so, If you want a game whn it first comes out, you buy itm then you play it, either you get tired of it, or find out it isn't all that great, either way, you sell it. you use the money to buy the next big game that comes out. you couldn;t do that if nobody bought used games. 

I know. But if people couldn't buy used games, many would be forced to buy new games, and that would easily make up for the people like you.

It's about a balance.

Perhaps GameStop is exploiting the used market, I don't know as I have never been in a GameStop.... but selling your purchases, and someone else buying them is not devil's work. It provides a viable way into gaming for those of us without £40/$50/60 being spent for something that might take less than 10 hours and have no replay value.

Developers and publishers on HD systems are focussing more and more money on things that don't provide long lasting entertainment, but rather a cheap thrill.
On the Wii it is the opposite, and they are hardly putting any money in to a game that when completed is barely worth £10, never mind £40

I agree, fundamentally its a sound business, and will never go away. But Gamestop pushes it too far. They encourage used buying over new only give the smallest mark down on the games possible. Saying you should pirate instead of buying used is extreme, but it's because of companies like Gamestop. I wouldn't mind buying used games at a local game store that used be located near me if I was in a strap for cash, but I don't see the point in supporting a company that hurts developers for their own personal benefit.



Aj_habfan on 16 July 2009
TWRoO said:
Aj_habfan said:
Ajax said:
''Am I now a bad person because someone was living in my house before me?'' And buying a pre-owned car is like stealing a car right..

Well if you stole the car, the dealer would be at a loss.

If you pirate a game, nothing is lost - only your potential sale of a used copy, which would have only benefitted Gamestop anyway.

Erm.... surely GameStop IS the dealer.

New car gets bought for $20k
1 year later owner sells it to dealer for $10k
Dealer sells it as a used car for $12k


New game gets bought for $50
4 months later owner sells it to GameStop for $15
GameStop sells it used for $20

----

Surely you see the connection.... now as I said, I don't know GameStop... perhaps they abuse the system.... but why not buy used from a different store if you feel their practices are not moral. If there aren't any other used game stores then that might be America's problem, GameStop has a used monopoly.

I am aware, lol.



Ajax on 16 July 2009
Ajax said:
Aj_habfan said:
Alasted said:
You might as well steal cars if you buy used.

At my A-1 Auto Lot they have a big sign outside "SAVE MONEY - BUY USED"

Sickening.

Exactly. Not many people have the balls for that though :P


I can't remember the last time I have heard anything as stupid as this.

 

I actually can remember, it was last saturday, there was this religious guy who believes adam and eve really were the first humans and so people have lived together with dinosaurs he said.

 



''Hadouken!''

Xen on 16 July 2009

I try to buy new mostly... but sorry, I ain't paying more than $45...