if someone of sound mind wants to end there life, i see no reason to force them to keep living.

I was sitting next to a guy on a plane, and I asked him what he did for a living. He was physiologist, and he was traveling around talking to people who really tried to kill themselves. He had interviewed over 100 people who had jumped off the golden gate bridge. Dozens jump a year, but more then you would think live. He wanted to talk to them because these are people who were not looking for attention, or anything. They really just wanted to die.

Here is the part that stuck with me.

He said the fall from the top to the water is about 6 seconds. And every person who jumped, everyone, said the second there feet left the bridge, they realized they didn't want to die.

This means for the 95% of all the people who jump, the last 6 seconds of there life is living with the realization that they want to live, but just killed themselves. Horrible thing to think about.

So, yes. Save them.

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They should save them, but if they have to waste organs on it then no thank you. Some people wait for a long time for a new liver just like my uncle and then they waste it to someone who doesn't respect his own life.

Ps: My uncles liver is practically dead because he has an alcohol problem. You might say it's his own fault, but it's a mental disease and he's not addicted anymore, but still in hospital. They won't give people like him a new liver if they don't stop drinking, so don't call it wasteful :) Being addicted to alcohol is something that you'll always carry with you. If you drink one glass of wine for example you can get addicted again. They're just easier addicted to alcohol then other people.

Having them lower on a priority list does make some sort of sense but aside from that, no, I don't think we should just let them die.

The experience might show them that they want to live. If they don't, better be successful at suicide at least. There are ways to do that with slim to none chance to survive, if a truly mentally sane person is really determined to die they can do some research and not give anyone the opportunity to save them.

I'm pro-euthenasia in cases of incurable and painful illness though, especially where their life would have long ended if not for half a dozen machines they are hooked onto.

I don't believe the story. The doner list is very short, and as such, they are very picky about who they give an organ to.

Yes, for example if you have alcohol problems. They won't even put you on the list if you aren't sober for atleast 8 months(or something)

It's understandable though, but if they do this with people who have alcohol problems then why not with people who are sick of their lives? Just let them rot in hell.

Ps: I may sound hard against people who commite suicide, but in 95% of the cases it's really something you can solve or live with. However some people have such a shitty live that suicide can probably be the best answer, but that's a minority. People in Africa have it a lot harder then people from the west, but they live with it... I know africans also commit suicide, but I'm talking about the big majority that do not do that.

Btw, the guy I saved is still a scumbag, but I guess he's happy to be alive. I saw him on the side of a road several months ago, spanking a kid. I pulled up on them. He said "Kid won't wear his seatbelt". I said "Aren't you the guy who........are you alright?" He said, "Yeah. I was drunk and I get depressed."

I can relate. Guy didn't have insurance, either. I just shook his hand and drove away. I barely even thought about it anymore but now, it sorta makes me smile.





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I agree with this. Just because someone committed suicide doesn't mean they actually want to die. Sometimes it's a momentary thing which they won't do again.

How do I know? I have a friend who attempted suicide once. That was like 14 years ago, and she's now happily alive.

I'm tempted to say yes, if only because most people who attempt suicide don't actually want to die. What they want is for their pain to end, and they use acts like this to cry out for help when they know no other way. Most failed suicide attempts come from this category, and there's a reason for that: they tend to choose very failure-prone methods. Pills, cutting, asphyxiation, and so on: more people die accidentally from these things than deliberately. But by and large, the people who choose these methods are not stupid: they choose these methods because of the high failure rate; some part of them holds out hope that by some chance things might get better, even if they have to go through this to reach that point.

The ones who well and truly want to die tend to use methods with an exceedingly low chance of survival: gunshots to the head, great heights, large heavy vehicles, and so on. Sometimes a person who wasn't actually looking to die also use these methods, but there's little that can be done for them, because they don't survive in the first place.