The more I think about it now, the whether effects actually would be nice. Oh, well, there always is Forza 4 to look forward to. Or would it be Fourza? Hmm...

I know Forza 3 will include Drifting and drag racing modes.. .

I'd rather Drift then just turn left over and over like in Nascar, Forza has Oval track events already, no need for Nascar ..

Drifting is very popular and expanding out of Japan, its fun to watch.

Adding weather will be icing on the cake and a download away..

Anything announced so far doesn't mean is the final package so lets wait and see.

So? all this thread seems to do is once again bring out the sony boys and carl whatever he might be

fact is forza 3 has plenty of features and certainy will be a high quality game. This kind of nitpicking is just sad and lolable.

I am very excited for FM3 but I am not sure this is nitpicking. I find it incredible that the final product could be delivered with a Le Mans track which lets face it is basically a 24 hour event and not have a night cycle.

What is even more disspointing is not having weather. Some of the best races take place in weather and the decisions made for wet weather races can dramatically change the whole outcome. It seems an integral part of sim racing.

I agree thought FM3 has huge amounts to commend it, I just find these ommisions to be odd. I watched the PGR4 bike ride posted by Selnor and it was awesome. The lighting the weather it was allo so brilliant and now I find FM3 does not have it.

How can they ever hope to match the realism of a racing sim without collisions?  What's the point of having rain on the tracks if you can't even hit another car anyway.  I'm tired of this whole played out debate, neither Forza nor Gran Turismo is in the least bit realistic, so let's save the months of bullshit please.

GT5 will have collisions and damage, deadtom. Weather and night too.

Did you see the GT5 trailer (which has been confirmed by PD as 'not CGI') ? You see damages, weather and night cycles in it.

Still, I'm buying both games.

Well then, I stand corrected.  Thanks for the info.

Oh my god you truly know nothing about driving racing cars at high speed. The pure fact you made a statement like this shows everyone this. Do me a favour. Study racing for 16 years then come back and talk to me.

Seriously you havent got a clue. My point exactly proven between the difference of a Forza fan and a GT one. /Thread.

who cares bout rally races buying game like Forza? when i will want to play some offroad rally games i will get Dirt 2 that will do it better than GT5 or Forza 3 if it had rally races and have more variety of offroad race types than GT5 ever will.

@selnor

you do know companies pay polyphony to be in a gran turismo game.. honestly you really dont know what and how big GT is.. did you start gaming with the XBOX?