SciFiBoy said:
do you want me to put you under good bad or other? |
Other I think :)
Good. At least for the U.S., it is really one of the main reasons why our economy has continued to grow. People love to piss and moan about immigrants, but the fact remains that even if they take away jobs, generally shit jobs that you wouldn't want anyways, they CREATE jobs for other people by coming here and spending money.
Not to mention the U.S.'s population growth would be negative if it wasn't for immigrants and the kids they have. And try keeping an economy going strong with negative population growth. Its nearly impossible.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
| akuma587 said: Good. At least for the U.S., it is really one of the main reasons why our economy has continued to grow. People love to piss and moan about immigrants, but the fact remains that even if they take away jobs, generally shit jobs that you wouldn't want anyways, they CREATE jobs for other people by coming here and spending money. Not to mention the U.S.'s population growth would be negative if it wasn't for immigrants and the kids they have. And try keeping an economy going strong with negative population growth. Its nearly impossible. |
Don't you think that it's bad if a population of one country only continued to grow and grow? I guess maybe not for the US with it's huge ability to produce food, but what about other nations?
Akvod said:
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Yeah, but they would be having a lot of kids anywhere they lived.
Worrying about overpopulation is more of a global concern anyways rather than one for individual countries to worry about.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Since akuma and others started arguing, Ill say something too for clarification.
Of course it depends on many factors, like the size of immigration and the policies and attitudes held towards the migrants.
The US is a huge country and a melting pot from the start, it's different. The US can swallow a lot of people.
But what is even more important is the attitude from the natives towards the migrants. In Europe (and Sweden especially) we're treating immigrants as some kind of handicapped individuals that need all kinds of state funded measures and subsidies, which creates a huge cost for the society. In the US it's more of a 'come in, but survive by your own means'-attitude which I think is a lot healthier.
In Sweden, and many other European countries nowadays, immigration is starting to become a huge burden.
Also, theres so much hypocricy always surrounding the immigration topic. Here u cant criticise immigration and all it's problems (rising crime and changed morals and all sorts of things) because u get labeled as a racist.
Ask yourself why Japan has a zero immigration policy - despite having one of the lowest birth rates in the world!
It's because they see their society and culture as somewhat fragile, there would be too much turmoil and problems with immigrants. They want to preserve their culture.
| Slimebeast said: Ask yourself why Japan has a zero immigration policy - despite having one of the lowest birth rates in the world! It's because they see their society and culture as somewhat fragile, there would be too much turmoil and problems with immigrants. They want to preserve their culture. |
Hmmm =/ I hate both the liberals and conservatives in Japan. I remember being told in my orientation that it was a good thing that my parents gave me a Japanese name, and perserved my heritage. But on the other hand, what heritage? Sure, it'll be totally wrong to say I don't have any ounce of Japanese culture in me due to my household, but I was born in the US, raised in the US, and socialized in the US. I'll love to call myself Japanese, but I feel like it's a privellege I haven't earned/deserve, just like it's a privellege to be able to call yourself an American.
You might think of me as racist if I say that it's kinda disheartening for me to imagine a Japan that looks like America. I mean, America was a young history that has no concept of racial origin (even white people are from different countries, Ireland, Britain, France, Germany, etc). Japan, no, in fact almost all the countries have had histories dating back thousands of years... bah fuck it, IDK.
Akvod said:
You might think of me as racist if I say that it's kinda disheartening for me to imagine a Japan that looks like America. I mean, America was a young history that has no concept of racial origin (even white people are from different countries, Ireland, Britain, France, Germany, etc). Japan, no, in fact almost all the countries have had histories dating back thousands of years... bah fuck it, IDK. |
Interesting. But let's see here. I think i see u briefly mention it, but whats the background here - are your parents Japanese immigrants? Have u lived in Japan? Do u know the language? etc
| Slimebeast said: Ask yourself why Japan has a zero immigration policy - despite having one of the lowest birth rates in the world! It's because they see their society and culture as somewhat fragile, there would be too much turmoil and problems with immigrants. They want to preserve their culture. |
Is it a coincidence that Japan's economy has been stuck in neutral for over a decade?
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Slimebeast said:
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I can speak it, I think and my parents say that I have no accent. I occasionaly make... gramatical(?) hiccups. But my biggest problem is vocabulary. I can't have a dinner table conversation about politics in Japanese. As for reading, I can read up to like a elementary school level. So as long as the manga has furigana, like One Piece, then I can read it, as opposed to seinen manga like Vagabond or Golgo 13.
I visited Japan a lot when I was younger since my grand parents constantly got sick, and eventually died, and we had to attend death anneversaries. I think it's been 1-2 years now, since the last time I visited.
My parents are immigrants from Japan, so I'm a second generation. There's not a lot of Japanese people in America anymore. If they are, then their families have been living in America for a long time at this point. I'm pretty much in the same crowd as a lot of Indian kids in my regions, with parents that were born in their native countries, and with us being born here.
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