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Wait.. who the hell said it was a race?
Why can't PSN be what it is, and XBL be what it is?
Why does it have to be "catching" up.
PSN has advantages over XBL
XBL has advantages over PSN
Why can't we leave it at, they are both different services?
Why does PSN have to copy XBL to be "good"?
That is so wrong.



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banjokazoo said:
Warning FootballFan, you can be banned for an anti MS joke on this site.

Or add 'but I prefer my 360' after the joke, mods are touchy.

Actually I don't mind his joke at all.  It's people like you who spread FUD about the 360 having no good content so everyone is switching to PS3 that I can't stand.  If people really are switching over from one platform to another, they must be cancelling out or more people are switching to the 360 since it is selling more, no?

You are ruining this site with your childish little antics, banjo.  Why can't you just grow up and have fun on these forums instead of purposefully trying to destroy the 360?

Also, which other game on PS3 this year was 90+?  Infamous sure didn't reach that mark, so I'm not sure which you are referring to.  Perhaps this is more misinformation and FUD?



Speaking of misinformation, we're still waiting on a link to back up the super convenient points you made.



Steroid said:
Speaking of misinformation, we're still waiting on a link to back up the super convenient points you made.

Which ones do you need?  While your at it, why not dig up links to all your points since you are just trying to be a pain now.



makingmusic476 said:

I'd say Remote Play is the one thing that gives Sony an advantage in this area over the other two.

Honestly, I never realized how awesome it is until I finally got a PSP and had a chance to try it out. You basically bring up your ps3's entire XMB up on the screen of your PSP, and you can do this from any location with wi-fi.  After that, you do what you want.

One of my boss' friends used his PSP to access his PS Eye through his ps3 so he could spy on his wife while at the manager's conference last September.  xD


Well said.



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They Just Admitted Defeat. There Is No Way PSN Is Better Than Xbox Live. The Only Good Thing About PSN Is Dedicated Servers.



^^^ Doesnt the saving of £££ every year seem like a benefit to you?



One misperception about XBL Gold features is that they only apply to people who like to or reguarly play online games.

While a few of my XBL friends with Gold play games online, the vast majority of them are friends in real-life that just enjoy extra company while playing games.

The vast majority of gaming is still a single player experience.  This is where the Cross-game Party chat feature really shines.

While I was grinding my way through the final achievements in games like Tales of Vesperia and Magic the Gathering; I would hop into a Party Chat with a couple of friends or seven.  All of us are usually playing different games, mostly single player games, but yet we can still just BS about our days, politics, gaming industry, random stuff...  We are no longer restricted to just having a solo gaming experience.

This has also lead to each of us purchasing many games we otherwise would not have bothered with.  As an example, one of my friends was playing Saints Row 2 while we were talking.  He was doing escort missions and just broke out in laughter.  Kept telling me about what was going on in the game.  The humor really got me interested in SR2 and I ended up buying it.

Likewise several of my friends have seen me playing Magic the Gathering in recent days.  They would invite me to a Party Chat and ask me what I thought about the game.  All while I was playing the game and they were doing something completely different.

 

Xbox Live Gold enables whole new levels of community not scene elsewhere, even on the PC (outside of Live Enabled games).  It provides a seemless experience across ALL games.  Yea, on the PC I can Alt-Tab to get to a chat program, but that breaks the experience.  On the 360 I just push the communicate button the 360 chat pad to send and IM and soon a Tweet.  On the PC I can setup Skype in the background, but if a game starts hogging resources, the audio will regularly go to hell.  On the 360 this is never an issue.

Is XBL worth $50 USD a year?  If you have a few friends on XBL that you just to just BS with, have a Netflix subscription and/or play games reguarly online; definately worth every penny.

 

PSN is definately getting better, but until they get the community and marketplace really up to snuff, it will continue to be viewed as the 2nd rate service.  Is it "good enough" for a lot of people, yes, just like Linux and Google Apps are good enough for a lot of people.  But like Windows and Office Compete in part by having that extra 20% for each and every user out there that make using the products so much better, so does XBL offer that extra 20% (a different 20% for everyone) that make XBL so much better.

In other words, everyone has a base (80%) usage requirement.  Stuff like video marketplace, DLC, downloadable games, online play, friends list, and chat abilities.  But everyone also has a few additional features (20%) that they really want above and beyond that.  Things like Live Messenger, Twitter, Facebook, Netflix, Last.fm, Party Chat, Cross-game messenging, Cross-game invites, Party invites, Custom Soundtracks in all games, on and on...

 



siren said:

One misperception about XBL Gold features is that they only apply to people who like to or reguarly play online games.

While a few of my XBL friends with Gold play games online, the vast majority of them are friends in real-life that just enjoy extra company while playing games.

The vast majority of gaming is still a single player experience.  This is where the Cross-game Party chat feature really shines.

While I was grinding my way through the final achievements in games like Tales of Vesperia and Magic the Gathering; I would hop into a Party Chat with a couple of friends or seven.  All of us are usually playing different games, mostly single player games, but yet we can still just BS about our days, politics, gaming industry, random stuff...  We are no longer restricted to just having a solo gaming experience.

This has also lead to each of us purchasing many games we otherwise would not have bothered with.  As an example, one of my friends was playing Saints Row 2 while we were talking.  He was doing escort missions and just broke out in laughter.  Kept telling me about what was going on in the game.  The humor really got me interested in SR2 and I ended up buying it.

Likewise several of my friends have seen me playing Magic the Gathering in recent days.  They would invite me to a Party Chat and ask me what I thought about the game.  All while I was playing the game and they were doing something completely different.

 

Xbox Live Gold enables whole new levels of community not scene elsewhere, even on the PC (outside of Live Enabled games).  It provides a seemless experience across ALL games.  Yea, on the PC I can Alt-Tab to get to a chat program, but that breaks the experience.  On the 360 I just push the communicate button the 360 chat pad to send and IM and soon a Tweet.  On the PC I can setup Skype in the background, but if a game starts hogging resources, the audio will regularly go to hell.  On the 360 this is never an issue.

Is XBL worth $50 USD a year?  If you have a few friends on XBL that you just to just BS with, have a Netflix subscription and/or play games reguarly online; definately worth every penny.

 

PSN is definately getting better, but until they get the community and marketplace really up to snuff, it will continue to be viewed as the 2nd rate service.  Is it "good enough" for a lot of people, yes, just like Linux and Google Apps are good enough for a lot of people.  But like Windows and Office Compete in part by having that extra 20% for each and every user out there that make using the products so much better, so does XBL offer that extra 20% (a different 20% for everyone) that make XBL so much better.

In other words, everyone has a base (80%) usage requirement.  Stuff like video marketplace, DLC, downloadable games, online play, friends list, and chat abilities.  But everyone also has a few additional features (20%) that they really want above and beyond that.  Things like Live Messenger, Twitter, Facebook, Netflix, Last.fm, Party Chat, Cross-game messenging, Cross-game invites, Party invites, Custom Soundtracks in all games, on and on...

 


Wow, i actually agree with ya

siren said:

One misperception about XBL Gold features is that they only apply to people who like to or reguarly play online games.

While a few of my XBL friends with Gold play games online, the vast majority of them are friends in real-life that just enjoy extra company while playing games.

The vast majority of gaming is still a single player experience.  This is where the Cross-game Party chat feature really shines.

While I was grinding my way through the final achievements in games like Tales of Vesperia and Magic the Gathering; I would hop into a Party Chat with a couple of friends or seven.  All of us are usually playing different games, mostly single player games, but yet we can still just BS about our days, politics, gaming industry, random stuff...  We are no longer restricted to just having a solo gaming experience.

This has also lead to each of us purchasing many games we otherwise would not have bothered with.  As an example, one of my friends was playing Saints Row 2 while we were talking.  He was doing escort missions and just broke out in laughter.  Kept telling me about what was going on in the game.  The humor really got me interested in SR2 and I ended up buying it.

Likewise several of my friends have seen me playing Magic the Gathering in recent days.  They would invite me to a Party Chat and ask me what I thought about the game.  All while I was playing the game and they were doing something completely different.

 

Xbox Live Gold enables whole new levels of community not scene elsewhere, even on the PC (outside of Live Enabled games).  It provides a seemless experience across ALL games.  Yea, on the PC I can Alt-Tab to get to a chat program, but that breaks the experience.  On the 360 I just push the communicate button the 360 chat pad to send and IM and soon a Tweet.  On the PC I can setup Skype in the background, but if a game starts hogging resources, the audio will regularly go to hell.  On the 360 this is never an issue.

Is XBL worth $50 USD a year?  If you have a few friends on XBL that you just to just BS with, have a Netflix subscription and/or play games reguarly online; definately worth every penny.

 

PSN is definately getting better, but until they get the community and marketplace really up to snuff, it will continue to be viewed as the 2nd rate service.  Is it "good enough" for a lot of people, yes, just like Linux and Google Apps are good enough for a lot of people.  But like Windows and Office Compete in part by having that extra 20% for each and every user out there that make using the products so much better, so does XBL offer that extra 20% (a different 20% for everyone) that make XBL so much better.

In other words, everyone has a base (80%) usage requirement.  Stuff like video marketplace, DLC, downloadable games, online play, friends list, and chat abilities.  But everyone also has a few additional features (20%) that they really want above and beyond that.  Things like Live Messenger, Twitter, Facebook, Netflix, Last.fm, Party Chat, Cross-game messenging, Cross-game invites, Party invites, Custom Soundtracks in all games, on and on...

 

Good post.



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.