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I've said it before..

I'll say it again..

There are going to be 2 slimmed down versions of the PS3 this generation.

This will be merely the first, and probably closer to how Sony wished the console could have looked at launch.

This Slim version will help Sony catch the 360 in sales. I can't say it's going to fly past it, but it will definitely catch up.



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Steroid said:
The 360's gonna get a pricecut to what? Free?

You know how to count??? Why does it seem that Sony fanboys are always the least intelligent



Steroid said:
The 360's gonna get a pricecut to what? Free?

Seriously, just don't even try to make such a stupid fanboy comment.  This has been covered millions of times.  Grow up.

Current 360 Consoles:  $200/300/400
Average 360 sale price:  $290 (meaning more $300/400 than $200)

Possible price cuts:  $150/250/350 -- $150/200/250 -- $150/200/300 -- $150/250/300 -- etc.

And that still leaves room to cut the price at least once or twice more before the end of the generation in 3ish years.  Still leaves room for a $130 or $99 arcade, and lets not forget Natal will be coming in early 2010 to really mix things up.  I think the majority of the industry is more excited about Natal than a PS3 pricecut or slim of any kind.

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Before the 360 price cut last year, the PS3 and 360 were the same price.  Obviously at the same price it made the PS3 a lot more valuable.  That's why the 360 finally lowered it's price which by then it could more than afford.

I asked all my friends, and they said they want to buy a 360.  Even my friends with PS3's are either selling them to buy a 360 or buying 360's to go along with their PS3.  Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.



luvtospooge said:
It's not just the slim that might come this fall. It's also the price cut.

You bring something new to the market at a good price. I heard ps3 was outselling 360 before the 360 got a price cut.

I asked all my friends, they said they would buy a ps3 if the price was lower.

A ps3 slim with a lower price would kill it.

There's 2 parts to my original post

1) PS3 Slim is not what would increase the sales of PS3, it would be a drop in price. Look at the Super Nintendo and NES, they both sold great and they never changed. PS 1 and 2 sold amazing with price cuts and then eventually were released in slim form to reduce cost and more profits for Sony. I'm not denying that slim would create more money for Sony, I'm saying that PS3 Slim is not just gonna sky rocket sales. I betcha anything that if the Slim is released with the $399 price tag it would only have a spike in sales for those nuts that like to have it all (just look at PS3 sale spikes when they released a different box for the PS3!)

2) The only way you can make the Xbox 360 so much less appealing then a PS3 it would be if you take away the games that come out for both systems. Sure, Sony has great exclusives, but so does the 360. For example, while Sony has a power house title with GT5, the 360 offers a great quality title almost as good, if not better than it with a lesser following on the 360. Sony may have Metal Gear Solid 4 exclusive but Splinter Cell by the looks of it will be just as good on its own as a MGS 4. Now all you have left are multiplatforms, if you can get both systems the same titles and you have exclusives for both that are way similar and just as good the mass population will side with the cheaper offering. Remember that in the end is the mass market that chooses to side with what offers the most amount of titles, not what's implied as perceived value of the console itself.



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StanGable said:

I find it funny that most Sony fanboys here claim that the moment PS3 releases a slim version this will equal to total sales going off the roof! There's a fact t hat PS3 fanboys are forgetting: The reason why PSOne and PS2 Slim did so great was because the Playstation brand had already reach mass market success, had a great price and were the consoles with the most amount of AAA games.

Guess what? This is not the case this generation. Sure, if the PS3 Slim comes out and there's a price cut it will increase sales of the console. However the same will happen with a potential price cut for the  Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. They don't need to change the shape of the console to win, after all Nintendo has never changed the shape of their consoles and yet they had 2 winning generations.

Get with the program, PS3 will not be successful because of PS3 Slim, it will only be if somehow Sony manages to get developers to stop making games for the 360. Till that happens there's no way the 360 will just suddenly stop selling.

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nightsurge said:
Steroid said:
The 360's gonna get a pricecut to what? Free?

Seriously, just don't even try to make such a stupid fanboy comment.  This has been covered millions of times.  Grow up.

Current 360 Consoles:  $200/300/400
Average 360 sale price:  $290 (meaning more $300/400 than $200)

Possible price cuts:  $150/250/350 -- $150/200/250 -- $150/200/300 -- $150/250/300 -- etc.

And that still leaves room to cut the price at least once or twice more before the end of the generation in 3ish years.  Still leaves room for a $130 or $99 arcade, and lets not forget Natal will be coming in early 2010 to really mix things up.  I think the majority of the industry is more excited about Natal than a PS3 pricecut or slim of any kind.

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Before the 360 price cut last year, the PS3 and 360 were the same price.  Obviously at the same price it made the PS3 a lot more valuable.  That's why the 360 finally lowered it's price which by then it could more than afford.

I asked all my friends, and they said they want to buy a 360.  Even my friends with PS3's are either selling them to buy a 360 or buying 360's to go along with their PS3.  Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

Umm..wrong?  If the average price is $290, that means that the arcade console accounts around half of the sales.  The only way there are 'more $300/400' is if the average price is $300 or above.

Also..you people are off your rocker if you think they're going to cut the price.  I guess technically it will be heralded as a price cut, but all they're going to do is move the pro and elite down a notch, meaning Pro will be $200 and Elite will be $300.  They won't drop the price below $200 within the next year, and I'll take a bet with anyone on that.  Especially considering the Natal launch and it being presumably bundled with the system when it launches.



i have to disagree with you, i do think the PS3 slim if there even is one is released around 300 bucks, it will sell through the roof and that's how Sony will catch Microswift, millions are waiting for this moment and you will find out the truth.



Phrancheyez said:
nightsurge said:
Steroid said:
The 360's gonna get a pricecut to what? Free?

Seriously, just don't even try to make such a stupid fanboy comment. This has been covered millions of times. Grow up.

Current 360 Consoles: $200/300/400
Average 360 sale price: $290 (meaning more $300/400 than $200)

Possible price cuts: $150/250/350 -- $150/200/250 -- $150/200/300 -- $150/250/300 -- etc.

And that still leaves room to cut the price at least once or twice more before the end of the generation in 3ish years. Still leaves room for a $130 or $99 arcade, and lets not forget Natal will be coming in early 2010 to really mix things up. I think the majority of the industry is more excited about Natal than a PS3 pricecut or slim of any kind.

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Before the 360 price cut last year, the PS3 and 360 were the same price. Obviously at the same price it made the PS3 a lot more valuable. That's why the 360 finally lowered it's price which by then it could more than afford.

I asked all my friends, and they said they want to buy a 360. Even my friends with PS3's are either selling them to buy a 360 or buying 360's to go along with their PS3. Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

Umm..wrong? If the average price is $290, that means that the arcade console accounts around half of the sales. The only way there are 'more $300/400' is if the average price is $300 or above.

Also..you people are off your rocker if you think they're going to cut the price. I guess technically it will be heralded as a price cut, but all they're going to do is move the pro and elite down a notch, meaning Pro will be $200 and Elite will be $300. They won't drop the price below $200 within the next year, and I'll take a bet with anyone on that. Especially considering the Natal launch and it being presumably bundled with the system when it launches.


I'm sorry but you are wrong.  The $300 Pro is the top selling model.  It was stated by MS recently.  The only time the arcade made up about 45% of the sales was during the holidays.  I don't know the exact percentages, but I think it is safe to say that about 50-60% are Pro, 30-40% are Arcade, and the last 10% or less are Elites, if that.  So combined the Pro/Elite makes up about 75% of sales in order for the average price to be $290.

65 * 300 = 19,500
25 * 200 =   5,000
10 * 400 =   4,000
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                  28,500

28,500 / 100 = $285  So in actuallity the percentage of sales coming from the Pro/Elite models is around 70-80%.

And I was not saying they would cut the price, just showing fanboy on Steroids that they have plenty of options to cut the price to.



Phrancheyez said:
nightsurge said:
Steroid said:
The 360's gonna get a pricecut to what? Free?

Seriously, just don't even try to make such a stupid fanboy comment.  This has been covered millions of times.  Grow up.

Current 360 Consoles:  $200/300/400
Average 360 sale price:  $290 (meaning more $300/400 than $200)

Possible price cuts:  $150/250/350 -- $150/200/250 -- $150/200/300 -- $150/250/300 -- etc.

And that still leaves room to cut the price at least once or twice more before the end of the generation in 3ish years.  Still leaves room for a $130 or $99 arcade, and lets not forget Natal will be coming in early 2010 to really mix things up.  I think the majority of the industry is more excited about Natal than a PS3 pricecut or slim of any kind.

---------------------------------------

Before the 360 price cut last year, the PS3 and 360 were the same price.  Obviously at the same price it made the PS3 a lot more valuable.  That's why the 360 finally lowered it's price which by then it could more than afford.

I asked all my friends, and they said they want to buy a 360.  Even my friends with PS3's are either selling them to buy a 360 or buying 360's to go along with their PS3.  Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.

Umm..wrong?  If the average price is $290, that means that the arcade console accounts around half of the sales.  The only way there are 'more $300/400' is if the average price is $300 or above.

Also..you people are off your rocker if you think they're going to cut the price.  I guess technically it will be heralded as a price cut, but all they're going to do is move the pro and elite down a notch, meaning Pro will be $200 and Elite will be $300.  They won't drop the price below $200 within the next year, and I'll take a bet with anyone on that.  Especially considering the Natal launch and it being presumably bundled with the system when it launches.

We have winner! The average sale price is $290? Does that incluse a game or controller?

The fact that the average sale price is $290 indicates that the arcade is far and away the top selling SKU. I know that's the SKU I bought.

 

Where is the link which says that the average sale price is $290? Where is the link to MS saying the Pro sells the best?



Oh, I can't attest to people saying if the 360 will stop selling or not...but I'm just quite sure looking at the difference in sales where one system has always been cheaper than the other (360) and currently sells for half the price of the other (PS3) that people aren't pleading for a 360 or Wii price cut. The 360 is already at its top, accept it OT dude. You won't see a 360 selling under $200 this year or before X-mas 2010. It certainly won't stop selling, but its better selling days are NOW. The Sony PS3 on the other hand still has a couple of 13+ million WW fiscal years left under its belt.