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sc94597 on 01 July 2009
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Soriku said:
If true the only contendere are Muramasa and Reel Fishing lol. Others don't have good enough graphics to port.

But instead of porting focus on ads and distribution more.

That's irrelevant, there are some games on PS3 and 360 with really crappy graphics, as well as on PSN and XBL.

 

Of course there is, but how succesful are they? And how many are there?

Nearly every PSN and XBLA look bad. I can think of the games that actually push the system on one hand.

I don't see why they would port games that are made to be disc based, and probably at least around 3-4GBs on wii, to PSN or XBLA and then mark the price down(because nobody will pay full price for a downloadable game).



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outlawauron on 01 July 2009
sc94597 said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Soriku said:
If true the only contendere are Muramasa and Reel Fishing lol. Others don't have good enough graphics to port.

But instead of porting focus on ads and distribution more.

That's irrelevant, there are some games on PS3 and 360 with really crappy graphics, as well as on PSN and XBL.

 

Of course there is, but how succesful are they? And how many are there?

Nearly every PSN and XBLA look bad. I can think of the games that actually push the system on one hand.

I don't see why they would port games that are made to be disc based, and probably at least around 3-4GBs on wii, to PSN or XBLA and then mark the price down(because nobody will pay full price for a downloadable game).

Well, on PSN and XBLA, you lose the retailers and you're allowed to get nearly all the money from the sale. That allows for a lower price.

And PSN has games that are 2-3 GBs in space.



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sc94597 on 01 July 2009
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Soriku said:
If true the only contendere are Muramasa and Reel Fishing lol. Others don't have good enough graphics to port.

But instead of porting focus on ads and distribution more.

That's irrelevant, there are some games on PS3 and 360 with really crappy graphics, as well as on PSN and XBL.

 

Of course there is, but how succesful are they? And how many are there?

Nearly every PSN and XBLA look bad. I can think of the games that actually push the system on one hand.

I don't see why they would port games that are made to be disc based, and probably at least around 3-4GBs on wii, to PSN or XBLA and then mark the price down(because nobody will pay full price for a downloadable game).

Well, on PSN and XBLA, you lose the retailers and you're allowed to get nearly all the money from the sale. That allows for a lower price.

And PSN has games that are 2-3 GBs in space.

Though by putting it on PSN or XBLA you are limiting the audience. Also by having such a large game on these services you are limiting it even more though in Japan that shouldn't be a problem with it havin some of the highest broadband speeds and adoption rates. I think if any game should be ported to the HD consoles it is Muramasa. Like soriku said, the others don't seem to be in the HD Standards budget and  therefore graphic wise.



FilaBrasileiro on 01 July 2009

The point went way over everybody's head, the point is there are some games with crappy graphics on PS3 and 360 so Soriku's point that they wouldn't port some games because the graphics sucked is not really valid.



FilaBrasileiro on 01 July 2009
sc94597 said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
outlawauron said:
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
Soriku said:
If true the only contendere are Muramasa and Reel Fishing lol. Others don't have good enough graphics to port.

But instead of porting focus on ads and distribution more.

That's irrelevant, there are some games on PS3 and 360 with really crappy graphics, as well as on PSN and XBL.

 

Of course there is, but how succesful are they? And how many are there?

Nearly every PSN and XBLA look bad. I can think of the games that actually push the system on one hand.

I don't see why they would port games that are made to be disc based, and probably at least around 3-4GBs on wii, to PSN or XBLA and then mark the price down(because nobody will pay full price for a downloadable game).

Well, on PSN and XBLA, you lose the retailers and you're allowed to get nearly all the money from the sale. That allows for a lower price.

And PSN has games that are 2-3 GBs in space.

Though by putting it on PSN or XBLA you are limiting the audience. Also by having such a large game on these services you are limiting it even more though in Japan that shouldn't be a problem with it havin some of the highest broadband speeds and adoption rates. I think if any game should be ported to the HD consoles it is Muramasa. Like soriku said, the others don't seem to be in the HD Standards budget and therefore graphic wise.

You won't really lose audience by putting the game on PSN/XBL, especially since we know both services are very succesfull and plenty of games are downloaded from it daily. Also some games like Disgaea 2 look like ass but they still were released on BD and sold well, the point that they won't port because of graphics is really not valid, if anything they can upscale the graphics and make it look a little nicer

 



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sc94597 on 01 July 2009
FilaBrasileiro said:
The point went way over everybody's head, the point is there are some games with crappy graphics on PS3 and 360 so Soriku's point that they wouldn't port some games because the graphics sucked is not really valid.

How is it not valid? There is the chance that they feel the graphics aren't what PS3 owners were expecting. Also at your Disgaea reference in the other post. Firstly, I would like to say that is an existing series that has NEVER been graphically impressive. The Fanbase knew this when they played it on the PS2 and knew it wouldn't be on the PS3. New IPs have to boast something on HD consoles and usually that is the high production values of the game. Also you lose the install base that doesn't have online connected, or doesn't download games and would rather the physical format of the game. This goes without mentioning that this game will be multiplat aswell if it were to be ported.



FilaBrasileiro on 01 July 2009
Soriku said:
@Fila

But here's the thing...most HD owners are going to find those games average and/or not worth their time because of graphics in the face of other games. A game like Muramasa is different.

The games are average and not worthy of anyone's time, Wii owners saw that and so will HD owners, but they're looking to maximize sales, they'll port it.
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
The point went way over everybody's head, the point is there are some games with crappy graphics on PS3 and 360 so Soriku's point that they wouldn't port some games because the graphics sucked is not really valid.

How is it not valid? There is the chance that they feel the graphics aren't what PS3 owners were expecting. Also at your Disgaea reference in the other post. Firstly, I would like to say that is an existing series that has NEVER been graphically impressive. The Fanbase knew this when they played it on the PS2 and knew it wouldn't be on the PS3. New IPs have to boast something on HD consoles and usually that is the high production values of the game. Also you lose the install base that doesn't have online connected, or doesn't download games and would rather the physical format of the game. This goes without mentioning that this game will be multiplat aswell if it were to be ported.

 How is it a valid point? There are plenty of games on PS3/PSN and X360/XBL that look like ass, no it won't sell like GTAIV or CODIV, but it'll get some extra sales, what you're saying really makes no sense, I can give plenty other examples of games that looks like shit on both PS3 and 360 but I shouldn't have to.

 



marktheshark275 on 01 July 2009

That's nice, but is this move actually going to result in much more sales? I hope Marvelous thinks about the benefits & the negative consequences of this move.



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Bobbuffalo on 01 July 2009

I don't see anything wrong. I think multiplatfrom is a good thing.

unless they think that those games would sell more on a HD console...then they are delusional.



sc94597 on 01 July 2009
FilaBrasileiro said:
Soriku said:
@Fila

But here's the thing...most HD owners are going to find those games average and/or not worth their time because of graphics in the face of other games. A game like Muramasa is different.

The games are average and not worthy of anyone's time, Wii owners saw that and so will HD owners, but they're looking to maximize sales, they'll port it.
sc94597 said:
FilaBrasileiro said:
The point went way over everybody's head, the point is there are some games with crappy graphics on PS3 and 360 so Soriku's point that they wouldn't port some games because the graphics sucked is not really valid.

How is it not valid? There is the chance that they feel the graphics aren't what PS3 owners were expecting. Also at your Disgaea reference in the other post. Firstly, I would like to say that is an existing series that has NEVER been graphically impressive. The Fanbase knew this when they played it on the PS2 and knew it wouldn't be on the PS3. New IPs have to boast something on HD consoles and usually that is the high production values of the game. Also you lose the install base that doesn't have online connected, or doesn't download games and would rather the physical format of the game. This goes without mentioning that this game will be multiplat aswell if it were to be ported.

 How is it a valid point? There are plenty of games on PS3/PSN and X360/XBL that look like ass, no it won't sell like GTAIV or CODIV, but it'll get some extra sales, what you're saying really makes no sense, I can give plenty other examples of games that looks like shit on both PS3 and 360 but I shouldn't have to.

 

 It is a valid point because it makes much more sense to port a game that WILL sell well on the HD consoles rather than one that won't. A game like Muramasa looks good regardless of graphic quality, and will probably sell to the HD userbase while a game lik say rune factory probably wouldn't. It doesn't matter if there is extra sales. Porting isn't free, and when you have the choice to make more money you usually choose to. That is why when soriku says that the only game that seem like they will be ported is muramasa, it is valid to say that is the most likely option. Basically what I read in his post was, "chances are it is muramasa, because the other games don't have the production values that HD gamers want". This makes a lot of sense to me.