Can't wait to drive the GT-R around NYC.

In any case gt5p has sold me on gran turismo i always thought it was good at what it did simulation but never found it fun i really started liking it when i picked up gt5p and sold on it now forza 2 physics just seemed off to me and gt5p just seemed so natural to me.

Thats because Forza 2 had slightly more realistic physics...

No your telling me when two of my wheels hit the grass i pretty much whipe out or at least go out of control almost imeaditly no and also with anything above a class when you go in the sand when you hit the gass you just sit and spin no you move and you can get above 20mph unlike forza 2 in the sand

Relax, he was talking overall.

OT. Please edit your post, it's hard to get your exact meaning.

I always have a problem with people saying Forza has better physics without giving proper explaination in detail.

You people can keep fooling yourselves, to most they look the same. GT5 and F3 *ingame* visuals that is.

They both have their pluses and negatives, but in the end forza 2 edges out GT5:P just by a little bit

I know its hard to accept but look at the video if you want to know more...

Ya I watched it. They didn't have any explaination either.

I don't take something as a fact because someone said so, you know?