So I just downloaded the gt5 e3 2009 1080p WOW

[Brun2003]

No your telling me when two of my wheels hit the grass i pretty much whipe out or at least go out of control almost imeaditly no and also with anything above a class when you go in the sand when you hit the gass you just sit and spin no you move and you can get above 20mph unlike forza 2 in the sand