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megaman79 on 22 June 2009

I want the remake of the original, not the crapfest version.



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TheThunder on 22 June 2009
megaman79 said:
Yes, people who say no clearly haven't looked at the sales numbers.

like X-men Wolvrine or ExciteBots did ?? yeah right. It would have sold crap on either system



mibuokami on 22 June 2009

No, we already have precedent for mediocre action game that are release on all 3 platform and they all generally sell about the same.

Bionic Commando doesn't really innovate, at its core it's simply an action platformer with a gimmick.

This would have sold as much on the Wii as it sold on the PS360: crap.




megaman79 on 22 June 2009
TheThunder said:
megaman79 said:
Yes, people who say no clearly haven't looked at the sales numbers.

like X-men Wolvrine or ExciteBots did ?? yeah right. It would have sold crap on either system

Its like you didn't even read the OP's post did you?  His reasons are evidence that your wrong. Please read them before responding.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

salaminizer on 22 June 2009
SeriousWB said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
SeriousWB said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Well, the best way to make Bionic Commando do better would having it not suck. I haven't played it, so I'm not saying it does in fact, suck, but the general consensus seems to be that it does.

Wha? I have played it and thought it is a great little title.  I very much doubt it would be below 85% on metacritic on gamerankings, who is this general consensus you having been talking to? They need to be shot.

It's at about 70 on Metacritic. A lot of people have complained about, among other stuff, linearity and ridiculous plot points. Personally, as I said, I haven't played it, but I did read up on the ridiculous plot twist and thought it was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard - However, that's no reason to disregard a game. If it plays well, it shouldn't really matter. Most people don't seem to think it does play well, though.

Eh? I see 87 for PS3 version from Metacritic, 85 for the 360 version.  88.35% Gamerankings PS3 version, 87.66% for the 360 version.  Where did that 70 come from? Am I looking in the wrong place?

Bionic Commando Rearmed is a good game why would anyone complain about a sidescroller being linear? Are mistaking someone's minority opinion on the game to be the majority opinion?

erm.. the thread is about Bionic Commando (the "new" game) and not Rearmed (which you're talking about)



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Chrizum on 22 June 2009

It would still have lost Capcom money, but probably less so.



mibuokami on 22 June 2009
megaman79 said:
TheThunder said:
megaman79 said:
Yes, people who say no clearly haven't looked at the sales numbers.

like X-men Wolvrine or ExciteBots did ?? yeah right. It would have sold crap on either system

Its like you didn't even read the OP's post did you?  His reasons are evidence that your wrong. Please read them before responding.

What evidence? every 'evidence' the OP posted is highly debatable: he is certainly not 'wrong' for having an such an opinion:

1) Sure its an older game but like Punch-out has already displayed retro does not always equal sale, and Punch-Out is a far better Nintendo game with far more exposure than the new Bionic, it will go on to sell an easy million, Bionic will not... on any platform.

2) Bionic commando is not a FPS, its an action adventure game, read the review or play that game and you quickly realise shooting is very limited when compare to using your 'rad' arm and swinging around around like spiderman

3) This is on the only point with high merit, but we don't know the cost of actual development for the PS360 version, nor an anticipated cost for a wii version. We do know from industry source however that the average will game cost $5-$8 million while a PS360 game $12-$20 million. Do the math to shut me up I cbf, just note that the company making this is GRIN who employs around 230 ppl and have so far this year released 3 multiplat games, two of which are on shoe-string budget.

But even this is partly irrelevant as the question asked is better sales not supeior profit (although I know there is a correlation).

4) Bionic commando is fairly generic action / platformer with a swinging gimmick, I don't see it as being very unique but again thats debatable and is not an 'evidence' that thunder is wrong.

5) Point, though I doubt lowering its rating will make it sell significantly more.




--OkeyDokey-- on 22 June 2009

It would have sold better if it was a better game and people still gave a shit about the franchise.



TheThunder on 22 June 2009
megaman79 said:
TheThunder said:
megaman79 said:
Yes, people who say no clearly haven't looked at the sales numbers.

like X-men Wolvrine or ExciteBots did ?? yeah right. It would have sold crap on either system

Its like you didn't even read the OP's post did you?  His reasons are evidence that your wrong. Please read them before responding.

I read the OP and posted what I think about but funny thing you dodge my response to you and just did the old go read the OP again weak excuse. It's just one of your old anti HD games BS you've been spreading around when ever a PS360 games doesn't sell well when it's also proven that average or below average "Hardcore" doesn't sell on the Wii either.



Legend11 on 22 June 2009

I guess this might be a similar situation to MadWorld. In a perfect World both MadWorld and House of the Dead: Overkill would be on HD consoles and Bionic Commando on Wii. Too bad we don't live in such a World.