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Rath said:
America can't interfere obviously, Obama was at least smart enough to spot that. If America interfered a lot of the country would be forced to unite behind the hardliners in an anti-American response which would cause this entire thing to fail. America can't be seen to be meddling in Iran.

Also to the people doubting the ability of the protestors to remove the government - this is fairly similar in many ways to the 1979 revolution that overthrew the Shah and he had extensive western backing. The people in Iran do have the ability to overthrow the government if they have the motivation to do so.

Also the vote rigging isn't certain, certainly the reaction of the Iranian government looks organised in advance and the way the results came out was distinctly odd, but there is no definitive proof that rigging occured. Ahmadinejad is afterall very popular amongst the rural population.

@Troll. I'm pretty sure you have the people around the wrong way. Mousavi isn't 'in', he is the moderate in opposition to the hardliners currently in government.

Here's a nice little reason as to why it's rigged. Here's a chart based on the 'live results' of the election being rigged, and the number of votes counted, and ratios for each candidate:

Notice the lack of deviation? Why were electroncis & news reports blocked during election day from conducting proper exit polls? Why were there 30 polling sites with >100% of voter turnout? What about the other 200 that had >95%? How did Ahmadinejad pull ahead of Mousavi when Mousavi was winning 2:1 by polls just before the election?

There are plenty of irregularities - all of which make the issues and irregularities of the 2000 US election look like a joke.

 



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I am loath to use the polls as a benchmark for determining whether or or not the elections were fraudulent. They were not particularly reliable. I think there are certain outcomes that indicate a flawed election. The performance of both Mousavi and Karroubi in their home provinces is an example of this. Also, the strangely uniform results that mrstick posted. As Kasz and I have said, the rigging was likely orchestrated by the IRGC. They had the most to lose from a Mousavi victory. That is why the margin of victory was so comically large; the IRGC wanted to ensure that Ahmadinejad won a clear majority to avoid a run-off election. In my opinion, whether or not this "revolution" has any lasting impacts depends on whether Mousavi, Khatami, and even Rafsanjani are willing to offer some guidance to the masses. 



On that note stick, does anyone know where Katherine Harris is? Just wondering if she made any trips to Iran in the last few weeks



 

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@MrStickBall. Thats the distinct oddness I am talking about. The entirely linear nature of the results implying that all candidates did equally well in all regions, also the fact that the result was officially announced without the usual three day delay.



FootballFan said:

Amihinijad   said that the UK is  "EVIL"   For that he doesnt doesnt deserve to live rule the terror that is Iran.


I don't mind him calling us evil, it's taking our servicemen hostage that he and the Supreme Fucktard should be killed for. Hopefully some brave Iranian will assassinate the old bastard.



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