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jake_the_fake1 said:
MikeB said:
celticlonewolf said:
Oh yes not to forget that Crysis 2 is coming out for the 360 which again Im sure will push the 360 graphics even more and again show that the 360 an keep up with the ps3 graphicly and that it doesnt have this huge advantage that some people hoped it would have.

It will be interesting to see what they can accomplish, they are some of the most competent PC game engine developers. I hope they take good advantage of Blu-Ray disc (for graphics / 7.1 audio streaming and assets capacity).

I hope they understand the Cell, RSX, and how the Cell interacts with the RSX in order to really push the hardware the proper way. The 360 for them is just a PC with EDram so that wont be an issue as they've shown they are realy good engine devs unlike epic who screwed so many devs with their engine.


I am sure they understand the Cell processor in general, but I agree it's important for them to understand how to take advantage of the Cell to work together with the RSX as intended from a hardware design point of view as well. But I am most worried about them understanding how to implement proper Blu-Ray streaming combined with harddrive caching (this goes for nearly all 3rd parties).



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txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeper than average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.

lol, so PS3 exclusives are...movie level quality, in their storytelling?

...and 360 games couldn't even have their stories put on the Sci-Fi channel?

Ever play Mass Effect, Tales of Vesperia, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Lost Odyssey?

Ever see StarShip troopers or a "run of the mill" horror film on the Sci-Fi channel?

Not only did you significantly contradict yourself, but you also created one of the most insignificant and insubstantiated arguments I've ever heard on ANY subject.

What does the quality of the storyline in the best game on the Xbox 360 have to do with this thread? Have you played The Last Gaurdian or Heavy Rain? Could they be on Sci-Fi? What exactly are you implying with your statements towards the 360's top story based games library?



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

I thought the xbox 360 forum had a 50 foot restraining order against you?



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeperplot  than the average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film with maybe a bit of influence from John Carpenter's Mouth of Madness.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film and the parts with the children playing that I've seen in the vids seem like nods towards Fritz Lang's M.) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.


Have you played through Gears of War 1 and 2? of not, then I can excuse the ignorance in your post. Also, you passed right over all the other games that were named. on many of them the story goes much deeper than you would like to think.



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txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeperplot  than the average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film with maybe a bit of influence from John Carpenter's Mouth of Madness.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film and the parts with the children playing that I've seen in the vids seem like nods towards Fritz Lang's M.) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.

Is this a serious post? You're judging games that have not even released yet and making comparisons to make what kind of point?

How is Kill Zone or Resistance or any FPS on the PS3 any different from Starship Troopers? And what does the PS3 have to compare to Alan Wake?

Sony "supporters" sure are spooky.



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@ ZenfoldorVGI

lol, so PS3 exclusives are...movie level quality, in their storytelling?


Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4 are IMO worthy.

Mass Effect


I played it, I thought it was overhyped (besides the technical issues). BioShock is IMO much better, but in hindsight also overhyped despite being a good game.

(For the record, when released I publically stated BioShock, Mass Effect and Lost Planet looked great judging from the trailers and said I wanted them on the PS3, in hindsight IMO all 3 were overhyped originally)



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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jcp234 said:
txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeperplot  than the average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film with maybe a bit of influence from John Carpenter's Mouth of Madness.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film and the parts with the children playing that I've seen in the vids seem like nods towards Fritz Lang's M.) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.

Is this a serious post? You're judging games that have not even released yet and making comparisons to make what kind of point?

How is Kill Zone or Resistance or any FPS on the PS3 any different from Starship Troopers? And what does the PS3 have to compare to Alan Wake?

Sony "supporters" sure are spooky.

Spooky is not the word I would use. But then I would get banned. 



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MikeB said:
@ ZenfoldorVGI

lol, so PS3 exclusives are...movie level quality, in their storytelling?


Uncharted and Metal Gear Solid 4 are IMO worthy.

Mass Effect


I played it, I thought it was overhyped (besides the technical issues). BioShock is IMO much better, but in hindsight also overhyped despite being a good game.

(For the record, when released I publically stated BioShock, Mass Effect and Lost Planet looked great judging from the trailers and said I wanted them on the PS3, in hindsight IMO all 3 were overhyped originally)

From what I've been hearing. Uncharted is short enough to be a movie. So, maybe that's what the developers were going for.

But I've never had to pay $60 for a movie.



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeper than average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.

lol, so PS3 exclusives are...movie level quality, in their storytelling?

...and 360 games couldn't even have their stories put on the Sci-Fi channel?

Ever play Mass Effect, Tales of Vesperia, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Lost Odyssey?

Ever see StarShip troopers or a "run of the mill" horror film on the Sci-Fi channel?

Not only did you significantly contradict yourself, but you also created one of the most insignificant and insubstantiated arguments I've ever heard on ANY subject.

What does the quality of the storyline in the best game on the Xbox 360 have to do with this thread? Have you played The Last Gaurdian or Heavy Rain? Could they be on Sci-Fi? What exactly are you implying with your statements towards the 360's top story based games library?


     That the stories in what are considered to be great 360 games aren't any deeper than those in movies on The Sci-Fi Channel and are many times influenced by those movies.  Gears of War isn't any better than Starship Trooper or Dog Soldiers.  Heck, they've got a movie coming on in a couple of seconds called Savage Planet.  I'm sure it is just a B movie but better than any 360 games.



txrattlesnake said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
txrattlesnake said:
kowenicki said:
@txrattlesnake

what!?


     What I said.  I want to see one game on 360 that has a deeper than average run of the mill weekend movie on the Sc-Fi Channl.  So far, I haven't seen one and most of the games on the 360 could be Sci-Fi Channel movies in movie form.  Certainly, Gears of War doesn't have much more of a story than Starship Troopers and Alan Wake is just about like your run of the mill horror film.

 

On the other hand a game like The Last Guardian (and even Heavy Rain seems closer to a David Lynch film than your average horror film) seem to have deeper artistic aspirations.

lol, so PS3 exclusives are...movie level quality, in their storytelling?

...and 360 games couldn't even have their stories put on the Sci-Fi channel?

Ever play Mass Effect, Tales of Vesperia, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Lost Odyssey?

Ever see StarShip troopers or a "run of the mill" horror film on the Sci-Fi channel?

Not only did you significantly contradict yourself, but you also created one of the most insignificant and insubstantiated arguments I've ever heard on ANY subject.

What does the quality of the storyline in the best game on the Xbox 360 have to do with this thread? Have you played The Last Gaurdian or Heavy Rain? Could they be on Sci-Fi? What exactly are you implying with your statements towards the 360's top story based games library?


     That the stories in what are considered to be great 360 games aren't any deeper than those in movies on The Sci-Fi Channel and are many times influenced by those movies.  Gears of War isn't any better than Starship Trooper or Dog Soldiers.  Heck, they've got a movie coming on in a couple of seconds called Savage Planet.  I'm sure it is just a B movie but better than any 360 games.

Do you have some kind of hard proof that 360 games (specifically) are influenced by media on the Sci-Fi channel?

I would love to see it. Because it sounds like something fabricated to spread propaganda. Please, enlighten me, kind Sony "supporter."



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.