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Jereel Hunter on 19 June 2009
StanGable said:
Akvod said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Akvod said:
Riachu said:
Jereel Hunter said:

"Your princess is in another castle."

Simple, and to the point.

Mario games aren't trying to tell complex stories.  Of course it is to the point.

I want to know why Helios thought Mario had a complex story... maybe the enemies symbolize the underclass, and the princess represents the unatainable things in life?

I think you're onto something here. The mushroom guys represented his ongoing struggles with drug abuse, and all of the bottomless pits represented his constant struggle to avoid falling deep into depression. And in the end, if you fight your inner demons, eventually you'll be rewarded.

Holy shit, that's so deep.

What about Princess Peach? What does she represent? Also, what's t he whole deal with his twin brother Luigi? Why is he skinnier and taller? Is it part of his struggle about his image? Is he ashamed to be chunky????

Akvod mentioned the princess above.

As for Luigi... it probably is his image... or his constant struggle to live up to his parents expectations, and match up to his brother.

And princess Daisy is the one that got away.



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Nightmare24 on 19 June 2009

Well i don't know much about Metal Gear Solid but at the end of the day it will be amazing.



antfromtashkent on 19 June 2009

WUT!? i think that MGS4 engine was gorgeous O_o



A_C_E on 19 June 2009

Yeah the MGS4 engine was gorgeous, I don't see how they could do much better and have it be worth the extra cost of re-building the engine. Maybe it's because the engine wasn't built yet for the 360? Maybe it's because they don't mind spending more on the engine due to the fact that MGS:R will be multi-plat therefore bringing in more money's. Either way you look at it the game is gonna be gorgeous and Hideo on the team as well so it should be good.

The only problem for me is I have MGS4 for my PS3 but I also have a 360 and I always buy the multi-plat's on my 360 so it's gonna be a tough choice for which one I go with. Maybe I'll go with...BOTH!!!



Helios on 19 June 2009
Akvod said:

 

I mean, don't you think it's a bit like comparing oranges to apples when you're comparing a game like Mario to Metal Gear Solid? And how was the plot in Mario games complex? I didn't play Mario 64 (played a few of the older ones on my GBA), but I don't remember a complex plot... And how long are the dialogues in Mario?

I'm in no means saying MGS has a good script or not (and only sugesting that perhaps the cringe worthy script is due to bad localization).

But really, Mario?

I want to know why you think I said anything of the kind.

My exact phrase was "the quality of the script has little to do with complexity of the plot" id est, even a relatively plotless game like Mario can have good writing. 

Furthermore, it was you who brought up Mario in the first place. If we are going to talk about writing in Mario games, obviously the RPG spinoffs is where its at.



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Citan on 19 June 2009

Wow. I think you have to look outside the ususal hollywood writings to understand the writing in MGS 4.
A little more open-mindedness and understanding of culture might help you.
I`m embarresed to read something like this. In my opinion there are no games on this earth that have better writing than the MGS series.



Riachu on 19 June 2009
Citan said:
Wow. I think you have to look outside the ususal hollywood writings to understand the writing in MGS 4.
A little more open-mindedness and understanding of culture might help you.
I`m embarresed to read something like this. In my opinion there are no games on this earth that have better writing than the MGS series.

Ragnar Tornquist's games would like to have a word with you.



 

http://www.youtube.com/user/InvaderZimGuy1?feature=mhum

Citan on 19 June 2009
Riachu said:
Citan said:
Wow. I think you have to look outside the ususal hollywood writings to understand the writing in MGS 4.
A little more open-mindedness and understanding of culture might help you.
I`m embarresed to read something like this. In my opinion there are no games on this earth that have better writing than the MGS series.

Ragnar Tornquist's games would like to have a word with you.

Where, when and why?



Riachu on 19 June 2009
Citan said:
Riachu said:
Citan said:
Wow. I think you have to look outside the ususal hollywood writings to understand the writing in MGS 4.
A little more open-mindedness and understanding of culture might help you.
I`m embarresed to read something like this. In my opinion there are no games on this earth that have better writing than the MGS series.

Ragnar Tornquist's games would like to have a word with you.

Where, when and why?

I meant that Ragnar Tornquist's games are considered to be some of the best written in the industry.



 

http://www.youtube.com/user/InvaderZimGuy1?feature=mhum

Citan on 19 June 2009
Riachu said:
Citan said:
Riachu said:
Citan said:
Wow. I think you have to look outside the ususal hollywood writings to understand the writing in MGS 4.
A little more open-mindedness and understanding of culture might help you.
I`m embarresed to read something like this. In my opinion there are no games on this earth that have better writing than the MGS series.

Ragnar Tornquist's games would like to have a word with you.

Where, when and why?

I meant that Ragnar Tornquist's games are considered to be some of the best written in the industry.

Considered yes. In my opinoin NO.

Back to the topic: I`d like to see the one person on this planet make a better writing for MG. Because we can agree that MGS have extremely good writing, or?