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So you know how Microsoft is saying Natal will be as big as console launch? Well...yeah.
By Sam Kennedy, 06/12/2009

Earlier this week gaming blog Kotaku quoted Microsoft's Shane Kim as saying that the launch of Natal, Microsoft's new controller-free motion control technology, would be as big as the launch of a console. Not surprising. That's because Natal is going to be a new console.

On this week's Listen Up podcast we discussed Natal, and David Ellis and I talked about what we've been hearing regarding the new technology -- and how it's actually the cornerstone of Microsoft's next evolution of the Xbox. Microsoft will not only release Natal as an add-on for the Xbox 360, it will come standard with the next Xbox console.

Yes, there will be a new Xbox console next fall.

However, the new console won't just be an Xbox 360 with a camera, though -- we've heard it will be considered a new platform and carry a new name (Xbox Natal?). It's not clear what sort of upgrades we might see, but some have suggested it will be an slight upgrade of the current Xbox 360 technology.
Current Xbox 360 games would be playable on it, but future games would be able to take advantage of the added muscle. Similar to what we see in the PC space, games played on the more advanced Xbox would look or perform better, but publishers will still be able to support owners of both systems. Some developers have complained that they've already maxed out the Xbox 360; perhaps this will give them room to expand.


Make no mistake, we wouldn't be talking about the sort of hardware leap we've seen with Xbox (or most other) platforms in the past, and we're not talking about Microsoft ending one console cycle and starting another. We're talking about an evolution of the Xbox 360; similar hardware but upgraded, repackaged, and rebranded. It's actually not that unlike what Nintendo did with the Wii, where it essentially took the GameCube hardware, stuck in motion controls, and successfully relaunched it. The new Xbox console is said to be aimed directly at a mainstream audience -- and will launch before Nintendo is able to release its Wii HD.

What's interesting is that Nintendo and Microsoft are on a course to deliver very similar products yet are coming at them from opposite directions. Microsoft currently has the HD hardware and will in the future introduce motion controls, while Nintendo has motion controls and will in the future introduce HD hardware. Sony's PS3 will also be providing motion controls next year, though as a peripheral for its EyeToy camera.
As John Davison pointed out on the podcast, the Wii was the first console to do this, but it's likely that all future hardware will be more iterative than substantive. The distinction between new consoles will become far less marked -- similar to what we've seen in the handheld space, such as with the transitions from the Game Boy to the Game Boy Advance, the DS to the DSi, or the PSP to the PSP Go.

So when would we first hear about this new Xbox console? Our sources point to next year's Game Developer's Conference as the target for its unveiling and Fall 2010 as the target for release.



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And it begins a new... YAY... :(

I felt this generation was just getting interesting (games wise).



Prepare for termination! It is the only logical thing to do, for I am only loyal to Megatron.

So...they are going to release an Xbox 360 natal bundle and call it a new system?

What?



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.

What in the Hell is the Wii HD?

How far out of the loop am I?

Also I don't know if this seems like a good idea!



Khuutra said:
What in the Hell is the Wii HD?

How far out of the loop am I?

Also I don't know if this seems like a good idea!

Correct the Wii HD is right now competing with the SEGA Dream Master!



Former something....

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WUT? What the hell is going on?!



If this is actually true, I assume that this will be the scenerio:

The Xbox 360 isn't going anywhere. Next fall, Microsoft will be launching this "Xbox Natal", which is essentially like the DSi of the 360. They will launch maybe a Slim 360 with Natal either built in through an internal cord or Natal packaged with it. This will be to combat the inevitable PS3 pricecut. For existing 360 owners, we would be able to buy Natal seperately.

Even then, this whole thing sounds like bull*%^$.



GOTY Contestants this year: Dead Space 2, Dark Souls, Tales of Graces f. Everything else can suck it.

That would solve the problem of it not reaching a high enough install base...



Speculation doesn't interest me, but It would be interesting I guess.




No surprise here. The new machine won't be XBox 360 Natal it will be just "Natal". Like the Wii the name isn't supposed to be descriptive. It's supposing to be gentle, inviting and stand out. Natal works that way. MS isn't competing with Nintendo just to clarify. It's still focused on Sony. Think about it. MS has the core market right now(excluding Japan). There is no sign of PS3 taking 2nd place world wide. What would happen if MS could appeal to the broad market. Will Nintendo suffer, not really. It's already the king in the Blue Ocean. If MS releases Natal(upgraded 360) before PS3 and EyeWand. Then Sony get's crunched between Nintendo and MS. No win situation. Nintendo on the other hand once the ocean become red will just create a new Blue Ocean.

If Natal is the right price I will consider it this time.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.