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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Grand Slam Tennis vs Virtua Tennis 09 Wii differences and open questions

Ano on 16 June 2009
puffy said:
Impressions from a poster on Neogaf:

"Quick impressions!

Interface is clean, Music is fine, Pat Cash is commentator (the only one I've noticed could be more) - doesn't say much. Played some quick Exhibition play first to get the hang of it and that works well. But then jump online and just had a 40 minute match with some French guy (playing as Nadal).

Online is great, not MUCH lag but was playing a game in France so yeah twitched a couple of times, was great battle was going between 40 and Adv all the time for 15 mins had the room cheering. Leaders boards are good too (I'm now ranked 5th worldwide, Bozon is above me grrr), there is also a country leaderboard and Australia is now 3rd thanks to my efforts - I am indeed the first Aussie to have it no one else is on there.

Online has the EA online perks like adding buddies from people you play, adding people off the leader boards and even adding people from your Wii Friend List.

World Tour/Tourney mode looks promising the AI is pretty good. There is some party modes but I didn't try them.

Now the bigger issue, controls! Played with the Nunchuck and without. The game is serviceable without a Nunchuck it works fine but they'll be times where a player (mainly online) follows a pattern but your AI doesn't latch onto it and you keep failing to reach the ball in time. Luckily the nunchuck can be plugged in and taken out at any time. You do use A for Lob and B for a short stabby type shot and I know some people think Motionplus could of ended that but it's doing enough I think as it is and you can put (I don't know tennis terms so I'll use Golf) draw and fade as well as spin on.

edit: Oh sometimes if you move too far/fast without swinging it registers your body movement as a swing which can trip you up.

Didn’t bother playing without MotionPlus so can’t help you there.

Any questions? I'm buggered from playing :P"

I'd help Aussies online but I still don't know whether to get VT or GST yet because theres no online gameplay footage and not enough reviews!



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Ano on 16 June 2009

How do you use the WM+ in VT when you have the raquet attached?



Ano on 16 June 2009
NJ5 said:

I think I have just made up my mind to get Grand Slam Tennis. I found a shop near here which lets you trade in 2 games plus 5 € for a Grand Slam Tennis pre-order.

I just went to another games store, bought two crappy Wii shovelware games for 10 € each and will get the game tomorrow. It doesn't have Wii MotionPlus bundled but I'll find another way to get it cheap (maybe from some UK online store).

Who said shovelware is useless?

 

your giving me an idea...



shredman_aka_golgo13 on 16 June 2009

Its GST for me - VT just doesn't give me the control i want..
Just one problem though - the recalibrating in GST is a bit annoying

OK - here goes....

You do need to calibrate your WM+

Hold it steady for 2 seconds about waist high...
Whenever you hold the racquet (wiimote) steady for 2 seconds it recalibrates - so....

Pick a position in front of your TV/Plasma/Display device (central is good)

NB. This part assumes that you have calibrated your wiimote correctly in the first place through the settings menu...

You make movements from here and to the left and to the right (try not to move too much in either direction)

In between points you must hold the racquet (wiimote) in the ready position in front of you as you had at the start...
This will mean that you dont let the WM+ recalibrate in the wrong position and...

Thats it!

Check out this YT vid (by someone on the EA.com forums - bigfunballs to be exact...)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf3eV6sh3Vs

SHREDMAN



Keep_the_change on 16 June 2009
Ano said:
NJ5 said:

I think I have just made up my mind to get Grand Slam Tennis. I found a shop near here which lets you trade in 2 games plus 5 € for a Grand Slam Tennis pre-order.

I just went to another games store, bought two crappy Wii shovelware games for 10 € each and will get the game tomorrow. It doesn't have Wii MotionPlus bundled but I'll find another way to get it cheap (maybe from some UK online store).

Who said shovelware is useless?

 

your giving me an idea...


LOL, genious!

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bobbo19 on 16 June 2009

i am also leaning towards VT becasue of the realistic graphics. Online is important but i think i will buy VT. Even if the online is worse, overall the game seems to ber a more polished tennis game.



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Ano on 17 June 2009

I'm leaning towards GST now because the online play and multiplayer is much better and thats probably what I'll be playing the most.



puffy on 17 June 2009

Ok I'm going to settle this, for those that don't like the controls in GST at first, it really is about learning them, after spending about a week with the game, I think the controls are perfect and the ball really does go where you want it to.

It's a mix between more realism but not going too over the top.



 

tuoyo on 17 June 2009
puffy said:
Ok I'm going to settle this, for those that don't like the controls in GST at first, it really is about learning them, after spending about a week with the game, I think the controls are perfect and the ball really does go where you want it to.

It's a mix between more realism but not going too over the top.


That doesn't settle it because you still haven't told us whether it is definitely a better game than Virtua Tennis.



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blunty51 on 17 June 2009

There's a guy on amazon who did a pretty decent review/comparison. Note: it's under the review section of virtua tennis, but he compares the two games.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001SET1KW/ref=s9_simz_gw_s1_p63_t5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1AMJD37A0VXV3K45XQ9V&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938131&pf_rd_i=507846

 

A comparison to Grand Slam Tennis. Motion Plus. Actual tennis player., June 11, 2009

Fun:4.0 out of 5 stars 

I've had Grand Slam Tennis and Virtua Tennis for one day and played them about 3 hours each. I've played tennis for years. I'm using Motion Plus.

Here's a comparison.

Tournament mode: Grand Slam wins by a kilometer --- In Grand Slam Tennis you play the Grand Slam tour and do some exhibitions. No stupid "shopping races" like in Virtua Tennis. This part of Virtua Tennis is highly annoying. I don't want to run around a court on a shopping spree and jump through arbitrary hoops in order to play in a tournament. This part of Virtua was so annoying it took Virtua from 5 stars to 4 stars for me. Grand Slam exhibitions / mini games are fun while Virtua is annoying. On the other hand, you can just press "play" and choose tournament in Virtua but the experience is not as full as Grand Slam.

Graphics: Virtua Tennis wins by a meter. The crowd is better and players movement's are much more realistic to the player's style. Grand Slam's graphics are more cartoonish but with the announcers and the angles and replays it is more like participating in a match while you watch it on television... the presentation is better but does not make up for the better Virtua movement and detail.

Speed of play: Virtua Tennis by a kilometer. Your character moves at a more realistic pace and the match is just a more entertaining, fast action pace.

Controls: Grand Slam by a centimeter: Grand Slam's controls are easier to master. Virtua's controls have less tolerance for error. You MUST complete the training coach with Virtua to master any advanced shots, even then the drop shot leaves me wanting to smash the controller! Grand Slam's topspin, backspin, and fade are more true to real tennis, while Virtua's serve, lob, and dropshot are much more true. Grand Slam allows you to "cheat" somewhat by using the nunchuck to help with your crosscourt winner, while Virtua requires you to nail it perfectly. While I appreciate Virtua's effort, sometimes my intentions do not translate, but I suppose that's true in real tennis too.

Overall experience: A tie. Really. I appreciate Virtua's pace and effort at control realism, but Grand Slam gets the top spin and back spin nearly perfect... and that's a huge part of a real tennis player's game. Grand slam lets you cheat using the A button for a lob and B for a drop shot, and the nunchuck for crosscourt slams. Virtua has great realistic smash and lob controls, but the drop shot is just too hard and overambitious. The tennis stars in Virtua are more current and broader. Grand Slam gives you classic stars and current stars. Virtua's graphics are killer but the career mode is like throwing Jar Jar Binks into Star Wars... annoying and distracting. I want to play tennis, not the Sims! They both have room for improvement, but for a quality virtual tennis experience both beat the "plug and play" Wii Sports. Both require a bit of patience to learn. I'll come back to both for different reasons. 4/5 for Grand Slam. Note: I originally gave Virtua 4/5 stars. After playing it more see my warning below! And I now have to say if you are just going to by one, buy Grand Slam.

Edit after playing both for about 1 week: I can't win one game playing Virtua with a nunchuck. It is meant to only be played with the Remote. If you want to play a souped up, fast paced version of Wii Sports Tennis, this is for you. If you want to play a game with the nunchuck that requires thought, anticipation, and Strategy, play Grand Slam Tennis. If I could re-rate Virtua tennis after one week. I'd give it a 2.5 or 3 stars. If I could re-rate Grand Slam after one week, it would get a 5 star rating.