Cause in gt5p the cars look 2-3 times better than forza 2 but the environments look just the same. GT5 needs to have wayyy better graphics in envirnments than forza 3! Also c'mon sont tell PD to hurry this game and have some extra features as dlc!

no the graphics will be much, much worse.
*rolleyes*

Maybe the notes they are taking from Forza 3 will help to ensure that GT5 looks better than in prologue:

http://www.n4g.com/events_e32009/News-342351.aspx

"According to Forza 3's Turn 10 Studios Blog:

Perhaps the most surprising to me was when a couple developers from Gran Turismo makers Polyphony Digital came by to personally get hands-on with Forza 3, all the while taking careful notes, examining our UI system, shooting photos, and directly asking us some pretty interesting questions. The reason I say I was personally surprised was because PD aren't generally known as a studio to acknowledge that there are racing games that exist beyond their own. Which could explain why the GT franchise has been so stagnant in the racing genre since GT3. So it seems competition is good for the consumer after all.

And good for Polyphony Digital and Gran Turismo, too. "

Actually GT5 could have graphics worse than GT5: Prologue. GT4: P looked better than GT4 because graphical quality was decreased for a smooth framerate. GT5: Prologue has a smooth framerate though so chances are the game will get a graphical boost.

Prologue release a year ago so chances are things have changed since. I personally will be happy with GT5 Prologue graphics being the same in GT5 but what would be nice is if the game released before I become a grandfather (I'm not a chav which gives an indication).

oh I was thinking GT5p meant GT5 portable.

some convention better be established soon to avoid confusion.

Right, that will help them improve the graphics. If anything, graphics will be the last thing to be affected by this.