L4D2 is going to ROCK...and PS3 fans will continue to compliant about this being overpriced...WTF...you're a PS3 owners, why do you care? It would be nice if Valve launches this for $49.99 on the 360, and $29.99 as an expansion on the PC, since I think it would sell like hot cakes, but if not, I'm getting it anyway, as are mostof the people I play it with. Valve has already stated that they are still working on exapnding L4D...but it's not enough for some...they still want to gripe!

How can non-PC owning PS3 fans complain about the price of something they can't even buy? Please don't tell me you believe the conspiracy theory that the 10,000 protestors are acutally just PS3 fanboys, and it has nothing rooted more in the the usual PC vs Console argument that occurs when formerly PC centric developers (such as Bethesda and Valve) move towards the consoles?

I'm getting left 4 dead 2 no matter what. Sure it's fucked up valve did this to there fans and most likely won't continue to support L4D with future DLC, but i get what valve is coming from other than left 4 dead 2 this year there isn't any other game to look forward from valve other than half life 2 Ep 3.

Left 4 dead is one of the best shooters i've played recently.

I'll be sure to tell my friends to pick this game is up ASAP for the fun of it, gamers are disgusting sometimes down right and it's embarrassing to know ppl are like this for a game... See in November left 4 dead 2:)

Internet "boycotts", especially when it comes to video games, are largely ineffective and ignored by publishers and developers. Boycotting L4D2 is not going to keep it from coming out, nor is it going to keep people from buying it. As many people have said, even people boycotting the game will probably buy it anyway.

There's a slight variation on this for PC gamers. I was a hardcore PC gamer for a long time, and I can tell you, they operate differently than console people. Valve has been the darling of the PC gaming community for a long time. Steam was originally viewed as a misstep (because it REALLY sucked at first), but it was a small price to pay to play Half Life 2, and it improved rather quickly. Other than that, they've been golden. However, if PC gamers start thinking Valve is going more console-centric, they'll quickly abandon the company and move to a developer that DOES seem to have the PC in the forefront.

Perfect examples: Crytek, iD, and Epic. As I was leaving PC gaming, all three of those companies had pretty much fallen from grace in the eyes of PC gamers. Crytek's Crysis basically didn't run well on ANY of the existing hardware at launch and seemed very unpolished and unfinished in later levels. iD's execs were all talking about consoles in interviews and how they're going to start focusing more on them. Epic was kind of the same as iD. The same thing could happen to Valve once they realize there's a lot more money in consoles and start using the PC as an afterthought.

This is the natural progression of things. Developers do great things on the PC, they get big, they move on to consoles, and new developers come to take their place.

This boycott is worthless... they would have paid for this in increments, but now they just get it as one big package... I don't see what their f'n deal is... this is all the promised content... it's just coming as a retail package instead of being down loadable content.... most likely EA's insistence

Valve is pulling some annoying moves lately. First the 1$=1€ thing on Steam, and now this. I'm more than satisfied with support for TF2, and that game is a great value, but in case of l4d i think they should've at least make one more chapter free of charge.

I notice Valve have just made public statement on this - so I guess they both noticed and felt a response was due.

Basically they're saying the circumstances around L4D2 are exceptional and that, because the new ideas, etc. were so strong that they felt it warranted a new title vs an expansion or DLC. At least that's how I skimmed it.

QA wouldn't be hard to do, you can click on any members names and see what games they play, how many hours, etc. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott/members

You might need a steam account to view the members (not sure..)

PS - 2,000 more members joined since my last post twelve hours ago... (4,000/day)

^^

Not sure about the Steam account. I have one so could check out the members, etc. but I'm not sure you need it.

I get the nasty feeling this is brewing into longtime PC gamers feeling angry about increasing Valve support for 360 and seeing this as the first concrete example of its effect.

Personally, L4D2 will have to be amazing for me to buy it, I'm still playing TF2, Day of Defeat, etc on Steam as it is, never mind playing on consoles so I'm really not looking for another iteration quite so quickly.

I'm not complaining myself - I see it as a simple buy or don't buy choice for me.

If you don't know what you're talking about, better not make definite statements like that. Have you even read this link?

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott

Valve's DLC was promised to be free, as in TF2's case. They talk about it as "software as a service", and they say it gives them good business (for example, TF2 sales increasing every time there's an update to the game).

PC gaming is not the same as console gaming. This quick sequel goes against Valve's philosophy and promises.