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dcIKeeL on 11 June 2009
Beoulve said:
bardicverse said:
dcIKeeL said:

 

The HD consoles announcing motion controls is very big because it evens the playing field, wii is no longer so unique.

See, the problem is, it doesn't even the playing field - neither system has a device on the market. What we saw are crude prototypes.

Natal will be scaled down in the end, as it was incapable of presenting the full range of what it said it can do. With Nintendo already on the market with WM+, and Sony with a said device next year, MS is going to rush to get the system out and scale it back to make it afordable. Expect feature ganking for Natal.

As fo Sony's motion sensor, so much work has to be done to the way the system looks yet, Spring 2010 is unlikely. Right now, the product violates Nintendo's patent. The casing, the way its held, data relays, all have to be reworked from the ground up. What Sony has right now is a Wiimote without a nunchuck.

In truth, you might just see these technologies revisited and re-demonstrated at E3 2010, much like WM+ was from 08 to 09.

At the end of the day, for as much hype as gaming sites offer Natal and Sony Motion, it falls on deaf ears. The market that they are aiming for doesn't visit tech sites or gaming sites, they get cooking tips and ways to improve their gardens. Ultimately, both systems need a lot of work and will need to spend millions just to get the word out to the right channels. In the meantime, Nintendo will have a solid year to get WM+ to every current Wii owner and attract new fans. The issue here is, casuals are quick to pick up on scams, and if they hear about MS or Sony's motion systems, they'll chalk it up to a Wii knock-off, and shrug their shoulders at it. Casuals are NOT tech nerds and they are not gamer enthusiasts, they don't receive announcements such as Natal the same way gamers and tecchies do.

So true. The casual Wii owners are already getting everything they want (except for Buzz/Scene it and Singstar/Lips). Many of those gamers are also very much into Nintendo franchises like Mario and Zelda and have almost no knowledge of other franchises, so they go with Nintendo for both "hardcore" gaming and "casual" gaming. So whatever MS and Sony decide to do, they will have a hard time getting those costumers.

WHAT!?!?!? OMG don't worry, Microsoft is getting the word out and Natal is revolutionary enough to get attention on news sites and shows. Good morning america for one. Not to mention steven spielberg is on board and i'm sure he's involved in some marketing campaign. Spielberg's name carries alot of weight.

BTW, do you mean casuals don't take news like Natal in the same way as gamers because they don't scrutinize it and try their hardest to find reasons to find the technology unplausible? Look if casuals don't need to understand or care for the technology. If casuals don't understand they don't ask and are more likely to be amazed. Natal and the way MS pitched it certainly amazes. Casuals are all but sold if amazed.

Again, don't worry the news will get around and natal will be bundled with probably the arcade mostly but with all skus. The arcade at the time Natal launches will easily be 150$. Bundled with Natal it'll be what, 200-250$. The casuals love that price point. This is assuming of course Natal actually costs 50-100 dollars. There are new 32nm chipsets comming that will dramatically reduce prices as well as cheaper more efficient heat sinks.

Are you aware that MS has purchased two companies with similar technologies as Natal and brought them on board. There is one more company left which MS is looking to buy also. Do you really think they're not serious? They don't wanna scale this back and are not planning on it. Natal....IS COMING!