axumblade said:
lol. So 3 million? |
That certainly will not happen.
axumblade said:
lol. So 3 million? |
That certainly will not happen.
dahuman said:
well, if you know details about the history of Asian countries in general, then you'd know that the time of poverty>>>>>>>>time of prosperity by a ton, so would it really surprise you that people are more picky about money in general? it sure doesn't me because I've traveled all over and lived all over, Japan is no different, they've especially had a bad history of poverty outside of China's longer history, and most of the time worse. |
Japan is an isolated island with tons of resouces relative to its population. Actually today the problem seems to be more about space than resources, which is rare. How else do you think they industrialized a few decades before almost every other East Asian country? I doubt anybody would say Japan's history of poverty is anywhere near that of China. Tons and Tons of people starved to death, and still starve to day. You rarely hear about that about Japan or anything about that in their history. The most you probably hear or read about is the poverty after the Pacific War, but it seems about right that any country after a war would be impoverished. Now I'm not saying poverty was non-existant, no of course not, every civilization in existance had impoverished people. Also imo, economic history rarely affects anybody today compared to that of what is happening in the economy as of present. With extensive global trade, the economy of a country could change in months, and that means the average person is always changing their spending habits to fit this. This is unlike in earlier times, when economies were the same for hundreds of years, and there were strict classes. If the japanese were as cheap as you say, I doubt the average person would buy a new cell phone every month just cause they want the latest thing. I doubt expensive luxuries like video games would be prevelant. I doubt they would try to go for the latest technologies like they have been. Instead it seems very common to see things that are high tech, but trivial there such as vending machines for just about anything you could have. So like I said, stereotyping is rarely true.
sc94597 said:
Japan is an isolated island with tons of resouces relative to its population. Actually today the problem seems to be more about space than resources, which is rare. How else do you think they industrialized a few decades before almost every other East Asian country? I doubt anybody would say Japan's history of poverty is anywhere near that of China. Tons and Tons of people starved to death, and still starve to day. You rarely hear about that about Japan or anything about that in their history. The most you probably hear or read about is the poverty after the Pacific War, but it seems about right that any country after a war would be impoverished. Now I'm not saying poverty was non-existant, no of course not, every civilization in existance had impoverished people. Also imo, economic history rarely affects anybody today compared to that of what is happening in the economy as of present. With extensive global trade, the economy of a country could change in months, and that means the average person is always changing their spending habits to fit this. This is unlike in earlier times, when economies were the same for hundreds of years, and there were strict classes. If the japanese were as cheap as you say, I doubt the average person would buy a new cell phone every month just cause they want the latest thing. I doubt expensive luxuries like video games would be prevelant. I doubt they would try to go for the latest technologies like they have been. Instead it seems very common to see things that are high tech, but trivial there such as vending machines for just about anything you could have. So like I said, stereotyping is rarely true. |
I'm only going to list a few things, because you are typing too much information that are not needed since you clearly don't understand Japanese society, in the spam of the JP history until recently, no chairs, some benchs, chopsticks, no spoons, a ton of yellow bean products, some rice, some wheat, almost no land meat, sometimes random mountain herbs, some seafoods, cold ass weather that can't grow a lot of things, and tatami, that's it man, for the whole country, for thousands of years. oh and civil wars. saving is imbued into the society just by looking at their general living style too, and for good reasons, they haven't had the spending power for years now either. in fact they just admitted that the country is in deep deep trouble last month, the reason why you don't know this is because, 1.) they didn't release such information before and 2.) you haven't spent enough time there and simply don't know how they live.
for years now, the electronic business and gaming industry has been shrinking in Japan, that's because people simply have no money and they have to save to get by, those are not needed products and the cost of living is simply way too high, cell phone sales have been going down as well, and not just cell phones, everything. and those vending machines and public showers you have to put money in, those? good for the homeless, convient if it's downstairs, but at least they don't always need an address to get a job unlike in the states.
and don't even get me started with the Chinese side of things(or southern Asia in general,) the history is 10 times shittier. trust me, we are cheap asses in general, for good reasons.

axumblade said:
hense the lol. I can believe 2 million maybe since the last one made that in a week but I doubt 3 million. |
3 million first week is just too much. 2-2.5 milion would be reasonable expectation though. However, I think it's possible for DQ9 to become the first DQ game to sell 3 million in two weeks and replace DQ7 as the best selling DQ game in the series.
MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.
I love the logic in OP post which says Bayonetta/Tekken6 and other multiplatforms are going to sell 100% of copies on X360 in Japan aparently :D
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dahuman said:
I'm only going to list a few things, because you are typing too much information that are not needed since you clearly don't understand Japanese society, in the spam of the JP history until recently, no chairs, some benchs, chopsticks, no spoons, a ton of yellow bean products, some rice, some wheat, almost no land meat, sometimes random mountain herbs, some seafoods, cold ass weather that can't grow a lot of things, and tatami, that's it man, for the whole country, for thousands of years. oh and civil wars. saving is imbued into the society just by looking at their general living style too, and for good reasons, they haven't had the spending power for years now either. in fact they just admitted that the country is in deep deep trouble last month, the reason why you don't know this is because, 1.) they didn't release such information before and 2.) you haven't spent enough time there and simply don't know how they live. for years now, the electronic business and gaming industry has been shrinking in Japan, that's because people simply have no money and they have to save to get by, those are not needed products and the cost of living is simply way too high, cell phone sales have been going down as well, and not just cell phones, everything. and those vending machines and public showers you have to put money in, those? good for the homeless, convient if it's downstairs, but at least they don't always need an address to get a job unlike in the states. and don't even get me started with the Chinese side of things(or southern Asia in general,) the history is 10 times shittier. trust me, we are cheap asses in general, for good reasons. |
I think that is more relative to the technology, and resouces they had, not that they don't have enough money for other things. Most of those things you mentioned were brought over during the yayoi period. Also I agree that China and other mainland countries have had it a lot worse, that is why I said asia isn't as interconnected as Europe was. As for them spending less, it is like that all of the world. Same thing is happening here in the U.S. That also proves my point that their spending habits are based on what is happening now, and shouldn't be generalized to their ethnic group rather than to their countries situation. So you admit that they are cheap because they don't have it, not because their beliefs right? That is the main point I'm trying to get across. You generalized asians as cheap without any extra information. Cheap could be defined imo as having the money to buy something, but don't buy it because you don't want to spend the money on something trivial. Your support for the statement was that they aren't able to buy it which would mean they are NOT cheap, but just can't get it. When they were able to buy it sales were blooming right?
I'm going to make a crazzy prediction:
Nintendo will win every year in Japan this generation!
axumblade said:
The only question on my mind is if it can match the psp sales. The portable aspect definitely helped the PSP versions but the black wii might inspire a few people to buy it. |
No one is expecting it to be as big as the PSP titles for that very reason. But everyone is expecting it to be a great success. Of course, I predict a few Sony fans will say it's a failure for not matching the PSP sales no matter how well it actually does.
saicho said:
3 million first week is just too much. 2-2.5 milion would be reasonable expectation though. However, I think it's possible for DQ9 to become the first DQ game to sell 3 million in two weeks and replace DQ7 as the best selling DQ game in the series. |
Yes, here we go. People need to realize that while the DS is huge, the PS2 was also extremely popular and it has a higher attach rate.
We can, in all likelihood, expect the DS version to do better. Let's not get ahead of ourselves though.