Considering Square has yet to release a game for Ps3......
hm.......................
"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama
Smashed said:
I'm still laughing at the fact that 360 fanboys still believe a MGS game will go exclusive on their console, just gives me a chuckle every now and then. |
Lets see what Sony lost to the 360 this gen.
Devil May Cry check
Grand Theft Auto check
Final Fantasy check
Star Ocean check
Tekken check
I wonder who the last one laughing? More PS2 games moved to the 360 then xbox games moving to the PS3.
BTW I own MGS4 and its a overrated game/movie.
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Sony didnt LOSE any thing. They all came out/are coming out on Ps3, excluding Star Ocean
Tekken 5 BTW is on Ps3, but not 360...
"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama
| Dodece said: @Thechalkblock Square was not mercenary in regards to Sony. In fact they were one of their most loyal supporters. Time and again according to Square themselves they advised Sony against their PS3 strategy, but they still supported them. They lobbied for Sony to change their marketing strategy going so far as to state their point publicly. Still they supported them. They went so far as to show public disdain for how Sony was conducting business, and still they supported them. Square are not the mercenaries here. How else do you explain their unwavering support for years in spite of everyone else distancing and defecting. Before long they were one of the few standing beside Sony. All the while Sony doing whatever it damn well pleased. It was like Sony was saying we will do whatever the fuck we want, and you will do as we say. No Square didn't betray Sony. Sony betrayed Square, and Square stood by them until it could no longer do so. What Sony was doing hurt Square, and it hurt other third party developers. Get your facts straight. Square was not a bitch to Sony, they were a partner, and Sony did just about everything it could to hurt that partnership. Even so Square did more for the survival of the PS3 then they had any obligation to do so. They could have gone out on Sony like everyone else, but they didn't they kept delivering a very public high end exclusive to the console. They are still delivering a regional exclusive to Sony. You should bow down and kiss the ground they walk upon, because without Square the PS3 would be short a few million units sold right now at least. Without Konami or Square the PS3 might not have even made it out of its first year, because that was most of the Sony high end lineup right there. Metal Gear and Final Fantasy sustained that consoles meager public perception. Appreciate what Sony got they sure as hell didn't deserve it. A six hundred dollar console was never in the third party developers best interest as far as exclusives go. That price tag dragged sales down, and they all knew it. That is why the PS3 was in a drought most of its first year. I recommend you go review the history of this generation, because your dangerously misinformed. God I hate Sony fanatics attacking Square. They owe them so much it isn't even funny. Without Square where would the PS3 be now. |
Thanks for filling me in, I learned a lot reading your post. Though I must say that I am not a Sony fanatic, if I am any kind of fanatic I am a Nintendo fanatic, which brings me back to when Square supported the Super Nintendo and switched to Sony when Nintendo decided to go with cartridges for the Nintendo 64. I can see that what you have said works in this situation as well, assuming Square wanted Nintendo to make their next console disc-based. Is this correct?
bonkers555 said:
Lets see what Sony lost to the 360 this gen. Devil May Cry check--Capcom Grand Theft Auto check--Rockstar Final Fantasy check--Square Enix Star Ocean check--Square Enix Tekken check--Namco/Bandai I wonder who the last one laughing? More PS2 games moved to the 360 then xbox games moving to the PS3. BTW I own MGS4 and its a overrated game/movie. http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee313/nhatncrystal/photos/Nhat/?action=view¤t=IMG_2705.jpg" target="_blank"> |
None of the games you listed have anything to do with Kojima or Konami and their business.
Whether MGS4 is overrated or not is a discussion for a different time.
| infamous8 said: Sony didnt LOSE any thing. They all came out/are coming out on Ps3, excluding Star Ocean Tekken 5 BTW is on Ps3, but not 360... |
Just for your information Tekken 6 is coming to the 360 too.
MS lost Ninja Gaiden, Lost Planet, BioShock, Fallout 3 DLC...
Ms PAID for those to be timed exclusives. Sony never paid for any of those games you listed to be exclusives.
IIRC MS even paid Tecmo to develop Ninja Gaiden as well as have it as a timed exclusive. Hence, MS paid for a game to be made that later came out on the Ps3. LOL!
"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama
bonkers555 said:
Just for your information Tekken 6 is coming to the 360 too. |
I know that. I was obviously talking about Tekken 5.
"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama
@Thechalkblock
The Playstation was actually the byproduct of a joint Nintendo Sony venture. Which Nintendo had decided to back out of. So Square might have had an expectation that the 64 would be a disc based system. However I think the true culprit wasn't the limitations of the technology more then it was the expense of the formats in question.
Sony held three critical advantages. Firstly their format was incredibly cheap to manufacture as in it costs less then two dollars to stamp, and case a disc. Secondly Sony had a buy back policy. A seller could return an unsold copy of a game, and get their money back. Thirdly Sony could lower prices until a product was sold.
Nintendo held three critical disadvantages. They used proprietary carts. So they got a good double gouge on developers. First the licensing fee, and then the manufacturing fee. Carts are actually quite expensive to manufacture, and I think but am not positive that the price was over ten dollars per cart. So Nintendo could not honor a buyback policy you cannot just meltdown carts, and shove them back in the press. Finally with the up front cost it was, and I am sure you can attest to this very slow to go down. Whereas a PS1 game could be as low as fifteen to twenty dollars a year after launch. The 64 game would languish at its original price point for two or more years. They rarely went below twenty, and that is when a seller just wanted to eat the loss, and get rid of the game.
So Square had a fairly easy decision to make. They could make more money with Sony. Take less risk with Sony. Then they also could have a strong secondary market with Sony. They could sell their game at different price points, and almost always show a profit. Sony gave developers a lot of opportunity.
This generation the situation is somewhat reversed. This generation its Sony putting road blocks in front of developers. Their format is the most expensive, and their technology is by far the most expensive to develop for. Finally their price point discouraged consumers, and even when they did buy they had less ready cash to purchase games for the console. Both of which limits sales of games.
You can find more in this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation
P.S.
Sorry if I came off rough, but the Square being a mercenary comment has been the standard line for Sony fanatics who take it out on Square, because Sony is losing the console war. Square just didn't do anything to deserve it. They never have. They have just been the whipping boy of fans for as I am sure you can attest for the last dozen years.
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