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Everyone who already owns a Xbox 360 and has young children is going to buy this game so that their kids have something to play that is slightly age appropriate. Now the children's friends come over and they get to play the game. These kids go home tell their parents how fun it is. My son was the first kid in his class to get a Xbox 360, now about half of his friends own one too.



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mrstickball said:
IMO, I think VP is going to attempt to be Microsoft's #1 family-friendly franchise.

MS needs to focus Rare (since they own it) on the Viva Pinata franchise, as well as the Banjo Kazooie series. Rare's just about the only good non-Nintendo company for family friendly titles (atleast in terms of putting a ton out that are great).

VP was a masterpiece of a real-time simulation game and vastly undersold and underrated. But with a system like X360, it needs ALOT of games like this, like JRPGs, to build the userbase - the base isn't already there, but if enough games come out like VP, VPA, and such, they will start selling real well.

 Microsoft need's it's Mario, the Viva Pinata characters are not to the caliber that's needed.  Sony got it right with Crash Bandicoot...  send the mascott off to Nintendo's headquarters and call them out.  Too bad Sony didn't keep with Crash, maybe we wouldn't have gotten all those horrible sequels on the PS2, GC and Xbox if they had.



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mrstickball said:
IMO, I think VP is going to attempt to be Microsoft's #1 family-friendly franchise.

MS needs to focus Rare (since they own it) on the Viva Pinata franchise, as well as the Banjo Kazooie series. Rare's just about the only good non-Nintendo company for family friendly titles (atleast in terms of putting a ton out that are great).

VP was a masterpiece of a real-time simulation game and vastly undersold and underrated. But with a system like X360, it needs ALOT of games like this, like JRPGs, to build the userbase - the base isn't already there, but if enough games come out like VP, VPA, and such, they will start selling real well.

The problem is that the Xbox 360 already has a very diverse line up.  It's not a shooter machine at all.  Despite that though they can't seem to get anyone but shooter gamers to buy the thing.  That's obvious enough from the million sellers lists.  Although Viva Pinata is fun, it alone as a series is not going to create any sort of influx.  Banjo Threeie will help to be sure, but again, it's not that the 360 doesn't have a diverse lineup: it's that they have this image of "the frat boy shooter console" so ingraned that despite their lineup covering multiple genres they can't get anyone but one group of gamers to buy the machine.  I don't really know why this is or what they can do to fix it.



DarkNight_DS said:
mrstickball said:
IMO, I think VP is going to attempt to be Microsoft's #1 family-friendly franchise.

MS needs to focus Rare (since they own it) on the Viva Pinata franchise, as well as the Banjo Kazooie series. Rare's just about the only good non-Nintendo company for family friendly titles (atleast in terms of putting a ton out that are great).

VP was a masterpiece of a real-time simulation game and vastly undersold and underrated. But with a system like X360, it needs ALOT of games like this, like JRPGs, to build the userbase - the base isn't already there, but if enough games come out like VP, VPA, and such, they will start selling real well.

 Microsoft need's it's Mario, the Viva Pinata characters are not to the caliber that's needed.  Sony got it right with Crash Bandicoot...  send the mascott off to Nintendo's headquarters and call them out.  Too bad Sony didn't keep with Crash, maybe we wouldn't have gotten all those horrible sequels on the PS2, GC and Xbox if they had.


It takes years to build something like Mario.  VP is on the right path but they need to keep coming out with titles that receive great reviews.  Mario = Casual Gaming right now...  They are building VP the same way.  Mario has been around for over 20 years.  VP one...  At this point I don't really think you can say VP doesn't have the caliber required.  Time will tell.

There is a lot of potential in VP.  It has a lot of characters, is linked to a TV show, it would be easy to add more diversity to it as it is a different world, and it is colorful which helps.  It will take time, but they seem to be moving it on the right path.  I suspect there will be at least one VP title per year.



...Which is why I said they also need to turn Banjo Kazooie 3 out, and turn BK into a real franchise, rather than a once-a-gen colorful game.



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^^ Yep, that will help too... Especially, since it is a more established family frienly name.



My daughter really, really liked viva pinata... except for one little thing... the pinatas eat each other. She hated that part and didn't want to play it because of that. One of her classmates also bought the game and returned it for the exact same reason. On any forum with Viva Pinata content where parents of smaller kids contribute, you will find that is the only real complaint in the game. Imagine if Animal Crossing characters ate each other... Rare/Microsoft made a huge miscalculation in that one aspect of the game...

MS really needs to look at what Nintendo does well for games that can truly appeal to kids/family and execute on that same level.

As another side note, my daughter is 9. She likes her wii and DS but she also likes (on the 360):

Assault Heroes
Outpost Kaloki X
Band of Bugs
Viva Pinata Party Animals
Earth Defense Force
Samurai Warriors 2
Lego Star Wars



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Systems I currently own:  360, PS3, Wii, DS Lite (2)
Systems I've owned: PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, Saturn, 3DO, Genesis, Gamecube, N64, SNES, NES, GBA, GB, C64, Amiga, Atari 2600 and 5200, Sega Game Gear, Vectrex, Intellivision, Pong.  Yes, Pong.

She likes EDF? You've taught her well!

Do you ever play co-op with her?



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mrstickball said:
She likes EDF? You've taught her well!

Do you ever play co-op with her?

Co-op is the only way we play it, lol.  I bought this game at your insistence and we like it...  Co-op is cool because once you have a nice variety of weapons, on person can go shotgon/heat seekers and the other one a machine gun/bazooka kind of setup and you are a 2 person army...  Fun stuff.



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Systems I currently own:  360, PS3, Wii, DS Lite (2)
Systems I've owned: PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, Saturn, 3DO, Genesis, Gamecube, N64, SNES, NES, GBA, GB, C64, Amiga, Atari 2600 and 5200, Sega Game Gear, Vectrex, Intellivision, Pong.  Yes, Pong.

I play Eternal Sonata with my kids...and it is actually a lot of fun.  My daughter like the character designs , my son just like the fact that he can out score us on damage combo.... 

Anyway, I think MS need to put out not only more of the family type game but also put more marketing hype around game like VP.

My daughter doesn't seems to mind the fact that the Pinata are canibalizing one another (it actually bother me more than it does her, go figure).  She told me that they don't really die as you can see their glowing spirit go up and they go back to Pinata heaven and they just come back.   I though it was pretty creepy when I first saw the Pinata were eating one another....