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Cueil said:
Quickdraw McGraw said:
Shadowblind said:
Cueil said:
Chaos Theory is still the best Stealth Action game hands down

Damn straight it is. As far as actual STEALTH goes in games, Splinter Cell is king without competition. The only besmirchment on the record is DA which wasn't made by the same company as 1, 2, 3, and 5.

Clearly you guys haven't played the Thief series .

I have and it's not as good... they were limited technologicly untill 3... and really I'm sure if you're a hardcore fan you probably have issues with 3.

The technology really had nothing to do with it - unless you're looking for a better game visually.
Thief had far better level design, in that there were almost always multiple ways to tackle a situation - which is key in a stealth game. The gameplay was a lot more engaging and the AI competent (Splinter Cell suffers a lot from the menu-based approach, and MGS suffers due to terrible AI).
Although to be fair, I can see why someone would prefer Splinter Cell. However (In reference to ShadowBlind), to say it is "king without competition" is quite naive, I would think.

And yes, Thief 3 was pretty bad .



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Cueil said:
Akvod said:
Cueil said:
emo Sam has reasons to be emo... his daughter just died... that's pretty hard on a father... I'm sure she was a big reason he fought

I know, it was such a Deus Ex Machina though, and a really cheap and sappy one. He also continued fighting after his daughter died. The reason why he became completely emo was oh noes, Enrica died! Lambert dying felt a bit like a copout too.

The best analogy I can give is when both Micky and... Apollo died in Rocky III and IV. I fucking hate that shit (Rocky I, II, and Balboa are the good ones, with I being the only excellent one).

@ Slimebeast

I'm not arguing that SC Convictions (in its current form, before anything gets revealed at E3) won't be fun. As much as I hated AC, many people loved it. I'm just saying that I felt that it's unfair for Ubisoft to abandon the veryfans that built up the name and franchise of Splinter Cell, so they can use that very same and powerful brand to push for more profits.

If you want to play Social Stealth, or a TPS you have so many options and so many dedicated franchises and brands for that. But not only have they completely fucked up a franchise, which was built on S/L stealth, but we have nothing left (I never played Thief, and haven't heard anything about Thief 3).

As for action, the beauty of CT was that you COULD go and shoot everyone. Granted, you can strafe, nor stand in place and shoot. But you could still, as long as you use stealth and suprise to your advantage, go out and bash a door (knocking out the guy in front of it), and immedietly shoot your shotgun attachment, and proceed to spray everyone with you SMG/Assault Rifle.


You kill Erica?  AND Lambert!  You're fucking evil... I lost major points to save both... anyway... I can totally see where you are comming from.  I really do love the tactics that were prominent in SC:CT... I was a mix between Ninja and Merc... Sometimes I felt massive deadly force was need other times I just wanted to snap some fools necks

No, I stopped playing at around Kinsha. I fucking couldn't handle the glitchyness of the game (due to the sheer laziness when they ported the game) and I hated the changes. But I did kill Enrica. How am I evil for that? Kill thousands of people, with their own loved ones who'll be just as heartbroken to prevent the "heartbreak" of losing Enrica (it was so fucking random when she walked through the door and started to kiss with Sam. They created a romance with no foundation).

The enemies in CT were awesome. Especially when they were on high alert and in large numbers, they'll properly take cover, and they'll cover each other's back, stay in close proximity, and use realistic maneuvers and formations.



Speaking of stealth games, who made the Thief games and who owns that franchise?



Slimebeast said:
Speaking of stealth games, who made the Thief games and who owns that franchise?

Sqaure Enix



 



Lol, random bump Ziz.

I'll be watching for this title, and give it one last chance/benefit of doubt. I hope Ubisoft really listens to its fans... but I doubt it since the forums are now empty, both in members, and in threads criticizing Ubisoft (they always lock them).



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The 20 second leaked vid sold me



Wow the E3 demo was amazing! This is one 360 exclusive I will have to get for PC. The real time action with the cutscene in the bathroom where he smashes the guy through the bathroom door and mirror was so cool.

Alan Wake has me excited too.



Splinter Cell is a game I'm buying and Halo: ODST sold me and I don't even have Halo 3. I can't wait till I'm mashing people's faces in as Sam Fisher