SamuelRSmith said:
I hate to break it to ya, but consoles are PCs. It doesn't cost Microsoft any more money to run a "console" service over a "PC" service. |
I hate to brake it to you but PC does not Personal Console....While PC gaming is big on it's own right a PC does not perform a gaming especific role...
And yes it does cost more money.....do some research...
SamuelRSmith said:
Thanks for that, yeah, stating how many people are currently paying for the service proves or disproves my point, how? My point was how many people would be willing to pay for Gold if Silver already offered online play (so Silver was equivalent to PSN). |
That's a stupid question......Why would Microsoft copy Sony....Meaning ...They don't chrage for Online play but take donations(So i've heard) and a have Qore which is 25 dollars for 12 episodes...when on XBL their new stuff weekly(Interviews And a bunch more stuff)
And what's up with the Tax charging on PSN?....The money companies have to pay to provide online gaming on PSN.....And the money Digital Game Makers have to pay to have their content hosted on the PSN?
endimion said:
oh yeah and since when Free stuff are better in the service industry than the one you pay for ???? the only quality of free services are the fact they are free not their overall quality and packed in advantages.... |
Are you claiming it's superior to playing online on pc ?
1. no.
NO
2. Live runs on p2p servers. You like paying for your internet, and then for being allowed to use it ? i most certainly don't.
3. Even the ps3 has server based hosting for most games which are more stable.
So no. It's not like charging for something you get. It's like getting charged a second time for something you're already paying for.
Check out my game about moles ^
You're trying to prove to me that it costs more money, so you do the research, that's how it works.
No, PC means Personal Computer. That's what a console is - it's a personal computer. Do you think that running a service for a console requires different technology to running a service for PC? It doesn't, I'm afraid.
Hell, I'm willing to wager dollars to doughnuts that the GFWL and XBL runs off of the same servers.
SamuelRSmith said:
Xbox Live > Steam, how? |
Have you tried Steam? it's rubbish, just a poor mans xbox live copy except it doesn't offer anywhere near as many features, it's the closest a pc gamer can get to xbox live but it's rubbish lol,
Zizzla_Rachet said:
That's a stupid question......Why would Microsoft copy Sony....Meaning ...They don't chrage for Online play but take donations(So i've heard) and a have Qore which is 25 dollars for 12 episodes...when on XBL their new stuff weekly(Interviews And a bunch more stuff) And what's up with the Tax charging on PSN?....The money companies have to pay to provide online gaming on PSN.....And the money Digital Game Makers have to pay to have their content hosted on the PSN? |
It's not a stupid question at all, as that's essentially the question which players such as myself and Pyramid Head have to ask ourselves. We own both consoles, and we need to justify that subscription charge, and what is the only real difference between the two services that means that I have to pay £35 a year to get voice chat.... yeah, great.
Secondly, I'm not saying that running the service is free, it just doesn't cost £35 a year per customer to run (the cost will be in the pennies, a couple of pounds, maximum). If Sony are able to recuperate costs through offering downloads such as Qore, Home DLC and "taxing" other firms, then so be it, I'd rather have the firm pay for advertising (which is essentially what a demo is), then I have to pay for it.
SamuelRSmith said:
It's not a stupid question at all, as that's essentially the question which players such as myself and Pyramid Head have to ask ourselves. We own both consoles, and we need to justify that subscription charge, and what is the only real difference between the two services that means that I have to pay £35 a year to get voice chat.... yeah, great. Secondly, I'm not saying that running the service is free, it just doesn't cost £35 a year per customer to run (the cost will be in the pennies, a couple of pounds, maximum). If Sony are able to recuperate costs through offering downloads such as Qore, Home DLC and "taxing" other firms, then so be it, I'd rather have the firm pay for advertising (which is essentially what a demo is), then I have to pay for it. |
It's clear that you like PSn or PS3 better than XBL and 360..XBL is from 2002....PSn has a lot of things to catch up.....Good luck posing this argument after 1 vs 100 goes live
/argument
FKNetwork said:
Have you tried Steam? it's rubbish, just a poor mans xbox live copy except it doesn't offer anywhere near as many features, it's the closest a pc gamer can get to xbox live but it's rubbish lol, |
Have I tried it? I'm constantly logged into it. It offers more features than Live. It has the whole friend list, cross game chatting/messaging, achievements, cross-game invites, DLC, achievements, etc.
It also offers a gifting service (buying games for other friends), a guest pass service, game trials, and servcies such as Steam Cloud which uploads your save file to Steam servers so you can continue playing from the same Save file on any machine that you log in to.
The Achievements system is also better than Live in the sense that it tracks achievement progress (so, if there's an achievement for getting a thousand kills in Team Fortress 2, it'll track how many kills you are away from getting that Achievement. The service also offers extensive game tracking, a bit like Bungie.net but built straight into the Steam interface.
The service also keeps track of how much you are playing, and awards you "Steam Ratings" based on it.
It also offers all the benefits of gaming on PC like automatic game updates, and not having to change the disc to play the game.
Not to mention that the service is entirely free.
Your move.
Zizzla_Rachet said:
It's clear that you like PSn or PS3 better than XBL and 360..XBL is from 2002....PSn has a lot of things to catch up.....Good luck posing this argument after 1 vs 100 goes live /argument |
So, that's how you back out of a debate, then, by stating that I'm biased and thus regarding my opinion as void, yeah, great tactic.
FYI I had Live on the original Xbox, and although I don't have a yearly subscription to Gold on my 360, I still do go monthly from time to time, I know what the service is like, and I've been able to watch it grow.
SamuelRSmith said:
So, that's how you back out of a debate, then, by stating that I'm biased and thus regarding my opinion as void, yeah, great tactic. FYI I had Live on the original Xbox, and although I don't have a yearly subscription to Gold on my 360, I still do go monthly from time to time, I know what the service is like, and I've been able to watch it grow. |
I would not be an Xbox Fanboy if I were not able to end disscusion by calling others PS3 fanboys....Those are the rules of being a Fanboy...
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