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bugrimmar on 23 May 2009

I'm quite happy that people are really taking this thread well. I kinda expected a lot of "CELL IS THE POWER" posts already. It's refreshing to know that you guys are taking the time to appreciate the logic :)



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deadt0m on 23 May 2009

Good post. The one and only difference between Xbox 360 and PS3 is disc storage space. Well that and quality online, but that's a different thread. :P



bugrimmar on 23 May 2009

that's actually another myth when you think about it. "blu-ray gives better graphics"

but yeah that's for another day and another thread :)



Zizzla_Rachet on 23 May 2009
Megadude said:
Here is the myth of the PS3:

Long ago, in the beautiful kingdom of Happygamerland surrounded by mountains and forests... legends told of an omnipotent and omniscient Power of teh cell that resided in a hidden land. Many people aggressively sought to enter the hidden Land of Teh Cell... But no one could ever afford it. One day evil power began to flow from Microsoft... So the King commanded seven wise men to lower the price of teh cell. This seal should have remained for all time... But, when these events were obscured by the mists of time and became legend... Killzone 2 came out and vanquished the evil FUD.

Thank you Megadude.....you were expected to post this.....



 



deadt0m on 23 May 2009
CGI-Quality said:
There are actually plenty of differences and both systems have strengths and weaknesses and it shows in their top tier games. No myth about that.

And even if Blu-ray doesn't contribute to the look of a game, I'm not sure if that's been proven false though, it DOES contribute to lots more content within a game. MGS4's main advantage was Blu-ray, so it does account for something, which does matter.

Regardless, the article makes several nice points, even if I disagree with a few other ones.

Bold is 100% false.  It contributes NOTHING to the content within a game, it contributes to the amount of content that can be fit on one disc.  I am in no way denying that MGS4 could not be pulled off in one-disc format on 360.  But it could easily be pulled off in multi-disc format, thus meaning that Blu-Ray in no way enhances the amount of content available, only the number of discs that content is packaged on.



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Zizzla_Rachet on 23 May 2009
deadt0m said:
CGI-Quality said:
There are actually plenty of differences and both systems have strengths and weaknesses and it shows in their top tier games. No myth about that.

And even if Blu-ray doesn't contribute to the look of a game, I'm not sure if that's been proven false though, it DOES contribute to lots more content within a game. MGS4's main advantage was Blu-ray, so it does account for something, which does matter.

Regardless, the article makes several nice points, even if I disagree with a few other ones.

Bold is 100% false.  It contributes NOTHING to the content within a game, it contributes to the amount of content that can be fit on one disc.  I am in no way denying that MGS4 could not be pulled off in one-disc format on 360.  But it could easily be pulled off in multi-disc format, thus meaning that Blu-Ray in no way enhances the amount of content available, only the number of discs that content is packaged on.

Blu-ray does offer higher sotage space..So it's possible to have a game on Blu-ray be bigger than an xbox 360 game on a single dvd disc....for example Lost Odessy might have been capable on one blu-ray disc..

I must say the Blu-ray capacity is in my opinion one of the only good things about the PS3..but when it comes to games it's storage capabilities are meaningless when an xbox 360 game could just additional dvd disc..also think about how PC games are shipped with install disc and one game disc...this could possibly be a part of the xbox 360 future...but MS would have to eliminte the Arcade version or pack it with a 20 gig HDD



 



bugrimmar on 23 May 2009

again, fellas, blu-ray is another issue for another thread. don't spam it on here :P



deadt0m on 23 May 2009
CGI-Quality said:
deadt0m said:
CGI-Quality said:
There are actually plenty of differences and both systems have strengths and weaknesses and it shows in their top tier games. No myth about that.

And even if Blu-ray doesn't contribute to the look of a game, I'm not sure if that's been proven false though, it DOES contribute to lots more content within a game. MGS4's main advantage was Blu-ray, so it does account for something, which does matter.

Regardless, the article makes several nice points, even if I disagree with a few other ones.

Bold is 100% false.  It contributes NOTHING to the content within a game, it contributes to the amount of content that can be fit on one disc.  I am in no way denying that MGS4 could not be pulled off in one-disc format on 360.  But it could easily be pulled off in multi-disc format, thus meaning that Blu-Ray in no way enhances the amount of content available, only the number of discs that content is packaged on.

Can you prove what I said is "100% false"? End of the day, it's not a "myth" that Blu-ray DOES contribute to gaming.

I already admitted what it contributes to gaming.  It allows developers to make gigantic games on one disc.  That doesn't mean more content overall, that is my point.  Is having a game on one disc preferable to multiple discs?  Yes, of course.  It doesn't mean that a multi-disc version won't work, though.  Blu-ray provides an advantage, but that advantage is not in terms of graphics or OVERALL content, simply storage capacity, which is still nice.



Zizzla_Rachet on 23 May 2009
CGI-Quality said:
deadt0m said:
CGI-Quality said:
There are actually plenty of differences and both systems have strengths and weaknesses and it shows in their top tier games. No myth about that.

And even if Blu-ray doesn't contribute to the look of a game, I'm not sure if that's been proven false though, it DOES contribute to lots more content within a game. MGS4's main advantage was Blu-ray, so it does account for something, which does matter.

Regardless, the article makes several nice points, even if I disagree with a few other ones.

Bold is 100% false.  It contributes NOTHING to the content within a game, it contributes to the amount of content that can be fit on one disc.  I am in no way denying that MGS4 could not be pulled off in one-disc format on 360.  But it could easily be pulled off in multi-disc format, thus meaning that Blu-Ray in no way enhances the amount of content available, only the number of discs that content is packaged on.

Can you prove what I said is "100% false"? End of the day, it's not a "myth" that Blu-ray DOES contribute to gaming.

If a format that had the same storage space as blu-ray were out things would be different....Blu-ray itself does not contribute to gaming if it's only function is to provide higher storage capabilities.....Read by other post about this...



 



Zizzla_Rachet on 23 May 2009
deadt0m said:
CGI-Quality said:
deadt0m said:
CGI-Quality said:
There are actually plenty of differences and both systems have strengths and weaknesses and it shows in their top tier games. No myth about that.

And even if Blu-ray doesn't contribute to the look of a game, I'm not sure if that's been proven false though, it DOES contribute to lots more content within a game. MGS4's main advantage was Blu-ray, so it does account for something, which does matter.

Regardless, the article makes several nice points, even if I disagree with a few other ones.

Bold is 100% false.  It contributes NOTHING to the content within a game, it contributes to the amount of content that can be fit on one disc.  I am in no way denying that MGS4 could not be pulled off in one-disc format on 360.  But it could easily be pulled off in multi-disc format, thus meaning that Blu-Ray in no way enhances the amount of content available, only the number of discs that content is packaged on.

Can you prove what I said is "100% false"? End of the day, it's not a "myth" that Blu-ray DOES contribute to gaming.

I already admitted what it contributes to gaming.  It allows developers to make gigantic games on one disc.  That doesn't mean more content overall, that is my point.  Is having a game on one disc preferable to multiple discs?  Yes, of course.  It doesn't mean that a multi-disc version won't work, though.  Blu-ray provides an advantage, but that advantage is not in terms of graphics or OVERALL content, simply storage capacity, which is still nice.

Yes that's about it....