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Squilliam on 23 May 2009






Megadude said:
*yawn*

It was back in 2006 when we heard the wave of "360 is just as powerful as PS3" FUD.


Now these statements are exposed for what they are. A preemptive strike to shutdown Pwny and bluray before it began.

Look, NES had faster loading then the 360. So did Virtualboy. So does the DS. Would you say that these systems are more powerful going by the one cherrypicked (and true) example showing the NES to be superior to 360? I would hope not.

I do not think it's impossible for the 360 to have something that looks as good as Killzone 2 this gen. But until that time PS3, is the graphical king of this generation (on consoles at least).

When the time comes that that game arrives, gloat all you want. Until then it's PS3 FTW.

Ok then, show me a game that was coded individually for both the Xbox 360 and PS3 that looks and plays better on the PS3.


On the Xbox 360 side we have:



  • GTA IV

  • Call of Duty IV


All with measurable differences favouring the Xbox 360. These current exclusives don't really prove anything because you have too many variables to control. There are many people who would say that the PS2 had some of the best looking games last generation, there are very few who thought that it was because the PS2 was more powerful.



Tease.

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Jo21 on 23 May 2009
bugrimmar said:
that "power" is an illusion.

the graphical discrepancy between games is all down to the budget of the game and the art style.

you can expect the best graphics from gran turismo 5 because yamauchi desires that photo-realistic look and he has the funds from sony to do it (look at that long ass development time). on the other hand, you can't really expect EA to throw away that kind of money on its NFS franchise when they have so many other projects to work with (and they put out a new NFS every year).

comparing halo to killzone is like apples and oranges. halo is a sci-fi battle against aliens in lush, colorful worlds with strange aliens and such. killzone is a traditional war shooter set in a black and grey world, featuring humans against humans with red eyes. no real comparison there.

comparing uncharted and gears is also apples and oranges. uncharted is first and foremost an adventure game, so that it focuses it's graphical power on the environment and the character models. gears is primarily a shooter, so it focuses it's graphics on special and particle effects, things like blood, explosions, etc.

even if this idea that the ps3 is "more powerful" were true, that "extra power" isn't game changing. the difference (if there is any) is so small that it's a meaningless discussion.

i actually doubt that there's any "extra power" at all. sony has a long track record of overhyping and underdelivering, and that's what the ps3 is about.

again, it's all down to budget and art style that determines graphics. don't buy into the hype.

u can give a 360 the same budget that killzone 2.

and kz2 would still look better on the ps3. the big budget helps, but also ps3 peak perfomance it's bigger.

360 don't get that budget either so will take a while for a 360 game get where ps3 it's going and still have much room for improvement.

u can talk about art style all you want, but in graphics u can compare shaders, textures, particles, lighting, animations,

and nothing on a console comes close to killzone 2.

EDIT: 360 is Direct X 9 and CAN't Do direct X 10 same for the ps3.



BrayanA on 23 May 2009
Naraku_Diabolos said:
BrayanA said:
haxxiy said:
Directx10 and easier-to-use architecture work wonders.

DirectX 10???!!!

Yes, the Xbox 360 uses DirectX 10 programming; it's Microsoft's own tool for developing games. DirectX 11 is coming out on the second Service Pack for Vista and it's already included in the Windows 7 Beta and RC and will also be in the final version of Windows 7.

Xbox 360 can't use DirectX 10. Only DirectX 9.0 + some DirectX 10 functionality, but not full DirectX 10 specification.



TheSteve on 24 May 2009

I still say RE5 looks better, and it's multiplat... That said, I've only played the rather drag demo for KZ.



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rckrz6 on 24 May 2009
BrayanA said:
Naraku_Diabolos said:
BrayanA said:
haxxiy said:
Directx10 and easier-to-use architecture work wonders.

DirectX 10???!!!

Yes, the Xbox 360 uses DirectX 10 programming; it's Microsoft's own tool for developing games. DirectX 11 is coming out on the second Service Pack for Vista and it's already included in the Windows 7 Beta and RC and will also be in the final version of Windows 7.

Xbox 360 can't use DirectX 10. Only DirectX 9.0 + some DirectX 10 functionality, but not full DirectX 10 specification.

In total agreement, xbox 360 is built off dx9 hardware



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KLucifer on 24 May 2009
Zizzla_Rachet said:
KLucifer said:
Naraku_Diabolos said:






BrayanA said:







haxxiy said:
Directx10 and easier-to-use architecture work wonders.

DirectX 10???!!!

Yes, the Xbox 360 uses DirectX 10 programming; it's Microsoft's own tool for developing games. DirectX 11 is coming out on the second Service Pack for Vista and it's already included in the Windows 7 Beta and RC and will also be in the final version of Windows 7.
rofl...since when did xbox 360 come with directx 10???....hahah.....ps3 doesnt have directx 10 either...so wat are all these talks about directx 10???...both use directx 9...

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/24/xbox-360-cant-run-directx-10-confirms-ati/
That's from last year..Waht makes you think MS won't be to upgrade it?

you do know that having the capability to use dx10 is also an hardware issue too right??....not just a firmware or software or coding....if just an upgrade(you probably meant update) was required...then alot of PC video cards would be dx10 capable as well..but that's not true...u need to buy another dx10 capable vid card to make dx10 work

which means xbox360 would need a new video card to handle dx10.....the xbox360 doesn't have a new video since launch...



piccoro on 24 May 2009

Ps3 exclusives have the most powerful graphics of this gen, but 360 aren't bad



Ramiel on 24 May 2009

Why is everybody overlooking Valkyria Chronicles? The game that was originally 360 exclusive but became PS3 exclusive 'coz the 360 couldn't handle it at all.