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What I do know is that anyone under the impression it will be 360 exclusive needs to lay off the magic mushrooms. No way would Konami spend all that money just to leave it after one game. I'm sure Sony know what the game is and offered a payment to make it exclusive but honestly I hope it is multi-plat.

More people get to play it and that really is all that should matter, not bragging rights on a gaming forum. :/

I have got to say though that I think this is going to be a PSP game. Look at what Kojima did for an iPhone game after all. For the giggles though please almighty one make it Wii, PSP or DS exclusive.



 

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Hephaestos said:
Multiplat:

+ More money from larger sales

+ 360 big in the US

+ 360 cheap so potential buyers may get a console to play the game... which they are less likely to do with a 400$ PS3

+ Increase fanbase for further itterations of the series.

+ 360 DLC in good shape

+ increase Japanese exposure (+1M consoles)

- Kojima's taste for PS3

- MSG4 not on 360 (less of a problem than Mass effect 2 however as other MSG were not on PS3 either)

- developpment costs higher

- Alineation of part of the core fanbase (they'll still buy the game though but less Konami brand loyalty)

- Gamesize restriction (though multiple CD = chapter installs....)


yeah it'll be for Wii :p

corrections:

Konami doesn't need more money.They aren't greedy like EA,they believe in creating good games and not just make games for money.And the sales weren't too bad either if you look at the userbasea and the previous installments had sales simeilar to this one.

The US population is mad about FPS.Bigger userbase of 360 doesn't mean higher sales.The MGS fanbase is on PS3.

It doesn't matter if 360 is cheaper than the PS3,almost everybody who loves MGS has a PS3 cause MGS is too gud to miss.

MGS is a game with niche market appeal,bringing it to 360 won't increase the fanbase

Kojima doesn't believe in DLC that much cause he puts everything he's got on the disc.DLC is just another way to earn money for greedy devs

Increase Japanese exposure?Most of the Japanese people who love MGS have it,1m won't help.It will help X360 more than it will help the sales

Kojima has said again and again that PS is his preferred platform

meh

Devlopment cost are high but they were all recouped easily.And PS3 is the highest revenue generator for most of the devlopers as the PS3 has gud fanbase in Europe where games cost more than any other place.

Again most of MGS fanbase has the game already so the brand loyalty remains

PS3 has blu ray,lol...........................

 



Sony doesn't have to do anything to ensure MGS5 to be exclusive, Kojima has already ensured that not with words but with history. The next Metal gear solid will have better graphics than mgs4 (which was testing the waters of the ps3s power) its will be just as long story wise and will have just as many cut scenes as ALL the other MGS series its too big of a game to come to the 360



They will, yes. Or they may not have to life a finger, Kojima will probably want it exclusive to the PS3. With a 360 port somewhere down the line perhaps.



  

Solid_Snake4RD said:
Hephaestos said:
Multiplat:

+ More money from larger sales

+ 360 big in the US

+ 360 cheap so potential buyers may get a console to play the game... which they are less likely to do with a 400$ PS3

+ Increase fanbase for further itterations of the series.

+ 360 DLC in good shape ????

+ increase Japanese exposure (+1M consoles)

- Kojima's taste for PS3

- MSG4 not on 360 (less of a problem than Mass effect 2 however as other MSG were not on PS3 either)

- developpment costs higher

- Alineation of part of the core fanbase (they'll still buy the game though but less Konami brand loyalty)

- Gamesize restriction (though multiple CD = chapter installs....)


yeah it'll be for Wii :p

 

mghk

No objection on the rest of the list.

But the question is, Is Sony going to try and secure MGS5 through some financing or in simple words money hatting.?



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Solid Snake, these were + (positive) and - (negative) points to multiplat :p



errrrr yeah I did forget to answer the question of the thread :p (oops)

So, in my opinion, and after the list I made:

I think Konami would benefit from a multiplat release, MSG had never appeard to me as a system seller before this gen, but because of this new status, I believe the exposure of the series has increased.
Sure it's a niche game, but it's still by far the 3rd best selling PS3 game, so it can't be that niche... and the price of the PS3 will have on it's own prevented many gamers from going PS3 over 360 while ensuring they don't get both consoles (i'm an example these people exist), so I would not exclude the 360 base increase as nonexistent.
In 2 words, Big value for Konami.

For Sony, the deal pretty clear. Their own exclusives have failed to move significant amounts of consoles, and this franchise apparently does. It's also their highest rated exclusive, and one for which there has been much advertizement and much buzz. Retaining exclusivity by moneyhatting would be the smart move on the sony part...
That is, if they intend to remain in the console gaming business. Their PSP is hacked as hell but the PS3 is unhacked... so their next move could be to do a portable "unhackable" console so to take advantage of the market created by the PSP (the competition of the DS is there... but as they are only 2 very different platforms I doubt they eat much of each other's market share rather than creating some).
In this latter scenario, the exclusivity of a MSG5 will not make Sony benefit anything and would likely be an expensive endeavor (I would guess this game could sell and extra 1.5M over 4 if multiplat so count in a good 20M to foork out either in cash or by handling the marketing costs etc...), it is therefore very possible that the Sony Gaming division decides to let Konami decide on it's own with nothing more than nice words to try to sway them to the exclusivity.
However as it is unlikely (but surely not impossible given Sony's financial situation) that Sony drops out of the console race for next gen, I think they'll try to keep MSG5.



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Konami doesn't need more money.They aren't greedy like EA.



That is like saying I don't need a raise, I'm not greedy like my co-workers. The overall goal of every company is to increase revenue. You have to assume that they will make it for PS3 because the expense of the engine has already been done because of MGS4. So MGS5 will cost about half the price to develop (assume about $20 Million) to port that to 360 it would increase the cost by very little (no more then $5M - $10 Million). So if you were to be conservative and assume that MGS5 will sell at least 1.5 Million copies on the 360 (assume that the primary MGS audience is on PS3 and it sells half the copies on 360 compared to PS3).
1.5 Million copies multiplied by $60 = $90 Million in additional revenue for increasing costs by less than $10 Million (for extra development cost)

Now show me a company that doesn't want to earn $80 Million in a slow economy for little increased expense. It's not greed its called smart management. And remember these are very conservative numbers.

 

If Sony or MS want this game exclusive they will have to pony up about $100 Million to secure exclusivity because of the potential lost revenue from going multiplatform.



except your 60$ a pop is a bit high :p more like 30$ to be conservative (and consider sales after price drops).... still a good 40M for a 10M investment :p
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that makes it a 30-40M profit.... so not as expensive as you said... but still high....

and do consider the value for konami to have their team available to other things than porting... which is why I believe 20-30M is probably what Sony would have to cash out. (I said 20 earlier :p)
For MS... it's a different story, fans might not jump ship due to PS loyalty and there the overall sales might decrease.... so yeah 100M for exclusivity might be a good estimate :p



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CGI-Quality said:
Well, it could go either way. Personally, I'd rather it stay exclusive, but like I said, that's me. I'd rather games take advantage of the consoles we buy vs "multiplating" everything just to make the quick buck! Quality > Quantity, that will never change IMO.

So no, no Gears of War 3 on PS3 and no MGS5 on 360, but that's just my opinion.

 

Oh come on! Like MS would let their gears publishing deal evaporate...As for Konami....Not really caring much.....



 



morpheusx said:

Konami doesn't need more money.They aren't greedy like EA.



That is like saying I don't need a raise, I'm not greedy like my co-workers. The overall goal of every company is to increase revenue. You have to assume that they will make it for PS3 because the expense of the engine has already been done because of MGS4. So MGS5 will cost about half the price to develop (assume about $20 Million) to port that to 360 it would increase the cost by very little (no more then $5M - $10 Million). So if you were to be conservative and assume that MGS5 will sell at least 1.5 Million copies on the 360 (assume that the primary MGS audience is on PS3 and it sells half the copies on 360 compared to PS3).
1.5 Million copies multiplied by $60 = $90 Million in additional revenue for increasing costs by less than $10 Million (for extra development cost)

Now show me a company that doesn't want to earn $80 Million in a slow economy for little increased expense. It's not greed its called smart management. And remember these are very conservative numbers.

 

If Sony or MS want this game exclusive they will have to pony up about $100 Million to secure exclusivity because of the potential lost revenue from going multiplatform.

Where does all this EA is greedy come from?

Just cuz EA did not put any on saturn and DreamCast does not make them greedy...If anything Acivision is the only greedy company out there