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megaman79 on 19 May 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
megaman79 said:
Im liberal but i tell you she knew wtf was happening, alot of democrats knew and prob. voted for the measures, and this is the only thing that makes sense about why Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Yoo got away with their crimes.

Fire em all and throw em in prison.

 

Thank you. Finally someone agrees with me :)

first time for everything, lol. I think someone's got to pay for what happened in the last 8 yrs and no one should be lying about something thats caused the death of so many people, it makes me sick. Im talking about everything, the war, torture, excessive laws, everything that ANY politician was involved with should be fully investigated and prosecuted if deserving. Its the only way to stop it happening again, another 100 thousand deaths bcoz of a lie.

 



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uno on 19 May 2009

This is a distraction strategy. If Pelosi or any politician is guilty of breaking the law then they should be prosecuted.

Innocent until proven guilty. There needs to be evidence not rumors.

Interesting how Pelosi is such a criminal but Bush's name is somehow never mentioned.

Welcome to the controlled media!!



megaman79 on 19 May 2009

its really about republicans looking for a wedge. Ironically it was their president that sanctioned everything to begin with and you know my feelings about this, the guy should be held accountable by the hague war crimes tribunal.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

jv103 on 19 May 2009

Well-it depends. I think there is around a 90% chance that Pelosi is lying -she had everything to gain to pretend she was unaware. There's probably a 10% chance of the CIA lying. I mean the president does appoint the CIA director (correct?) and information about Iraq not having WMDs was quashed to some degree coming from the CIA and other intelligence claiming they had WMDs was highlighted (even though it was rather poor evidence). Even though this is the case, I still have a hard time believing the CIA would like - not to mention I don't think they would need to because I beleive Pelosi's "bleeding heart" is an act to continue to represent her district. I think she feeds on power (every poltician) any way she can.

Verdict: Pelosi (at least I hope so - if the CIA is lying, God help us)



txrattlesnake on 19 May 2009

Give the Republicans a few more m onths under Obama's Presidency and they'll start saying it was his decision to go to war with Iraq. Heck, Mccain nearly said that in one of the debates.



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sethnintendo on 19 May 2009

I am to the point where I really don't give a damn about either party. I would rather see another or more parties step in. Unfortunately, we have a two-party system that shuns third parties. It really doesn't matter who is telling the truth here. What should matter is why was torture legalized or tried to be made legal. The people responsible for that should be prosecuted. I believe Dick Cheney is the major culprit along with a few others. That is why Dick Cheney is going around spewing nothing but bullshit from his mouth. I wonder why so many people hate him? Also, I believe there should be term limits for Congress. Two or three terms in Congress is plenty. Once they are there longer they just become even more corrupt and really don't give a damn about serving the country to their best ability. They only care about saying anything to get them reelected again.



megaman79 on 19 May 2009

jv103 said:
I think there is around a 90% chance that Pelosi is lying -she had everything to gain to pretend she was unaware. There's probably a 0% chance of the CIA lying. I mean the president does appoint the CIA director (correct?) and information about Iraq having WMDs was quashed from the CIA themselves (see proof regarding yellow cake purchases in africa- pbs cutting edge) while other intelligence agencies (who were biased bcoz of political involvement, see PM Blair's involvement in MI6 intel edits or Cheney's constant CIA visits demanding some "proof" for the Iraq war -pbs again) lied about Iraq having WMDs.

Even though this is the case, I still have a hard time believing the CIA would like - not to mention I don't think they would need to because I beleive Pelosi's "bleeding heart" is an act to continue to represent her district. I think she feeds on power (every poltician) any way she can.

Verdict: Pelosi (at least I hope so - if the CIA is lying, God help us)

 

fixed. Do your research please, the rest of the world did and that's why so many countries were not "alies".



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

jv103 on 19 May 2009

Someone mentioned Mr. Yoo - Just so you know he's a Berkeley professor so hah - goes to show you that as long as your to an extreme you are alright at Berkeley(just kidding-actually people are trying to get him fired and dis-barred).



megaman79 on 19 May 2009

i say torture them all and get the truth out of em



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

jv103 on 19 May 2009
megaman79 said:

jv103 said:
Well-it depends. I think there is around a 90% chance that Pelosi is lying -she had everything to gain to pretend she was unaware. There's probably a 0% chance of the CIA lying. I mean the president does appoint the CIA director (correct?) and information about Iraq having WMDs was quashed from the CIA themselves (see proof regarding yellow cake purchases in africa- pbs cutting edge) and other intelligence agencies (who were biased bcoz of political involvement, see PM Blair's involvement in MI6 intel edits or Cheney's constant CIA visits demanding some "proof" for the Iraq war -pbs again)  claiming they had WMDs.

Even though this is the case, I still have a hard time believing the CIA would like - not to mention I don't think they would need to because I beleive Pelosi's "bleeding heart" is an act to continue to represent her district. I think she feeds on power (every poltician) any way she can.

Verdict: Pelosi (at least I hope so - if the CIA is lying, God help us)

 

fixed. Do your research please, the rest of the world did and that's why so many countries were not "alies".

You edited my thing to say 0% chance of the CIA lying but then go on to show how bad intelligence is presented as "good" intelligence. That's not misleading at all? I see apparently you did the research. Somehow you seem to believe that MI6 and the CIA either didn't have any contrary evidence (because apparently some of the best intelligency agencies in the world are morons and as you say other countries are not) or minimized it due to political pressure. Apparently, misrepresenting isn't "lying" but rather an "oversight" - at least that's what I get from your cute edit.